Chuck, Kreids is going nowhere. Give it up. Dump, looks like your coming around to my thinking on trouba that despite his physicality is just not only a defensive liability but lately is a human penalty. How many interference calls does he commit before Quinn sits him for a bit. That, chuck is our bad contract right now besides hank of course. I think they could move fast and put KAKKO up on that line with panarin and I think we get positive results. The kid is playing better but still not shooting enough which I think changes with getting some of those sweet breadman passes that fast can’t do anything with. Likes what I’m seeing with the small sample size from gauthier. Size and speed just curious to see if the kid has a mean streak in him. A bunch of injuries the last week or so to goalies and d men so I could still see georgiev, skjei or even d Angelo going with the right return. These are the 2 positions we have depth and as good as d Angelo is offensively he is a defensive liability and can’t move anyone out from in front of the net. Will be an interesting next few days. A few things could happen or nothing at all. I have full confidence in whatever gorton does as this team is getting built a lot faster than anyone here could have hoped for. I think we have a good shot at the playoffs the way we’re playing unless Kreids is traded and then because of what that does to the locker room I see the team taking a big step back.
My lord we overrate Kreider. Thank god we have guys like Gorton and JD running the show now. This is a guy who has disappeared for long stretches throughout his whole career. A guy who has never scored more than 28 goals or 53 points in a season. You talk about him like he's this stud player who scores 40 goals and 70 points a season. Crazy stuff how overrated Kreider is getting now. With that said, I would sign him if he is reasonable. 6 years max. 6 t0 6.5 per max. If we pay him over 7 mill per that is too much, and I cannot see Gorton doing it otherwise he'd be signed already. And now we knock Trouba also. A guy everyone wanted. Now it's oh I'd deal him. We have good depth on D, but I don't see Trouba getting dealt. Skjei, we'll see. Please let's have some sanity here. If Kreider does not agree to sign by tomorrow he must be traded, and I 100% expect he will either sign or be dealt by 3 PM tomorrow. Cannot leave it in limbo, and we will not.
I think if you put Kakko on the first line with Panarin now, the points would come. The game has slowed for him. He would start to produce. I think Gauthier will score as well with Panarin. Trouba is a tricky case. Our right handed defenseman are small. TDA, Fox and eventually Lundkvist. We would have no size on the right side. Also, it doesn't look good for the organization to give a guy a huge contract, then trade him a few months later. That probably will send a bad message to players around the league. We have Hajek, Rykov, Miller and Robertson all with size and speed on the left side. The logical choice to move is Skjei. As dumb as Trouba can be at times, his size is something we need on the right side. Rangers trade a lot with the Oilers. I could see Skjei and Fast going to the Oilers for their first and a prospect like Benson or McLeod. Personally, I got for McLeod. He's got great size, speed and is an amazing PK guy. If they do a deal. Trading Fast would be hard though as he is very respected on the team.
This is very smart: Elliotte Friedman last night on Sportsnet said that the Rangers won’t let the playoffs impact their decision to move Chris Kreider. If they don’t feel they can sign him they will trade him. The Avalanche are still considered the top destination and according to Chris Johnston in the same segment, Tyson Jost may be one of those pieces they can use to land Kreider. Dennis Bernstein last night noted that the Rangers had 2 scouts at the Avalanche game last night.
I don't want to say Jost sucks but he isn't good. He doesn't score and he's 34% on draws. Fuck him. Nothing the Av's have of any interest they would not use for a cup run other than Newhook and Bowers. They want Kreider. Bowers and a first. Not a penny less. Kaut maybe something to develop. They want Georgiev, I want Bowers and Kaut.
Bad enough I have to listen to the stupid fucks in our fan base who call up talk radio and consistently make assholes out of themselves by making moronic points. Like Staal is terrible. Staal played well two years ago with bumbling idiots around him. He has played very well for the past 35 games this year. Defensively, he's been much better than Trouba and Skjei. I would think they could trade Staal pretty easily now with some retained. I'm not sure I would. He's been a pretty calm influence on the kids back there. Yeah, dumping his salary at 33 would be a big plus but there is something to say about his presence with the young kids.
Maybe take a look at something with Florida involving Skjei and Trocheck. That would be a match for both teams. As for the Av's, they are a match with us I believe if we cannot agree with Kreider by tomorrow. They have a good pool of prospects, and have a need for Kreider (Georgiev as well - although I think I hold him with the thought Hank retires after this season). If we cannot come to an agreement on a new deal, I think the Av's are the team we'll deal Kreider to.
In his last 2 years, 130 games, CK has 97 points (.75 PPG) so I guess those long stretches of disappearing are broken up by a few weeks of prolific scoring. I think if he was going to be traded he would be gone already, JD and Gorton are running the show and know his value. His size, strength, speed, ability to play in NY and that he's entering his prime will be hard to give up for a pick and a hump. He's also on pace for personal bests in goals and assists. Sign him and give him the C already.
Sounds like Lundqvist is very frustrated with the situation and open to moving right now, so maybe if they eat 3m of his remaining prorated salary he could be an option for Carolina or Arizona. The issue is what about his salary next year.
He was his usual streaky self last year. This year after a slow start he has been really good for a long stretch, full credit there. Maybe that is a sign of things to come. .75 ppg equals 61 points over 82 games. His career high is 53, so a little better, but again not a stud dominant guy. He is not a 7 mill per + player. And I think the opposite. If Gorton was willing to give him over 7 mill per he'd be signed already. Not sure why one would think if he isn't dealt by the day before the trade DL that means he won't be dealt, not following that logic when most big deals happen up against a DL. Truth be told, I think it is a coin toss whether he is here or gone at 3 PM tomorrow. I do feel he will not get a deal that starts with a 7 as his AAV from Gorton. I also feel he is either signed or dealt by 3 tomorrow. I don't see them keeping him without a new deal. We'll see.
Av's don't have a good pool of prospects at all. We don't need any d or goalies. They said they aren't giving up Newhook or their top d man prospect. So all they have is Kaut who is nothing special and Bowers. They aren't a match IMO at all. More I think about it, why trade for Trochek if you are keeping Strome. Makes no sense. Skjei needs to be a salary dump with no salary coming back. Carolina was a match for us with their forward prospects and a deal was done.
Give it up dude. Kreider is being signed and your opinion on him sucks moose dick. His screens in front probably lead to about 40 goals a year. So take 40 points on to his totals and you see what he means to the team.
He may be signed, I think it could go either way. I will be fine with him being signed if the deal is reasonable and starts with a 6. And please stop the nonsense now of giving him more points because he screens, that's a joke. As if he's the only player in the NHL to do that. You should focus your energy on making up 700 trades that never happen. Or liking Quinn, and every coach, and then hating them and blaming them for everything two weeks later, then asking for them to be fired. Or liking Skjei, and then wanting him traded. Or liking Trouba as what we need, and then wanting him traded. Focus on that, not judging other peoples opinions.
I also rather have Trocheck than Strome. Doubt the deal happens, but saw it mentioned in a few places. Strome may be a guy we let walk if we can add another C. He will want a deal in the 5's or 6's also I'd think. Either way I do think Gorton does something. It would surprise me if we did nothing.
Fuck off. Your Kreider hatred got old 2 years ago. You are obviously too stupid to realize that almost nobody in the league can be a net front presence like Kreider. He's elite at it. If you don't think his screens in front make a huge difference, you should be horsewhipped. Zibanejad alone has about 10 goals that went in because Kreider totally screened the goalie.
I think Strome to Trocheck would be an upgrade, and his contract situation is better. I doubt we can resign Strome for under 5m given his current salary. If strome would take a short-term deal maybe, but in that case I'd rather have Trocheck for 2 more years at 4.75m, along with whatever we get back for Strome in a trade. We saw how Strome looked without Panarin early in the year. It wasnt pretty. I'd trade Strome while his value is high this offseason if we can find a better 2C replacement. Trocheck fits that bill. But these may be draft time moves. I could be wrong but I dont see that kind of shake up coming given where the team is now.
Nobody is going to buy into Strome without Panarin. For whatever reason, Strome works well with Panarin. Guys to move or buyout are Skjei, Staal Smith and Hank. Those are the moves to make. I'd rather have Trochek to Strome but we need to dump some salary to sign Kreider, Fast, Strome and TDA. Skjei and Staal are logical choices. Staal I think has helped the kids but they do need to dump some salary here.
Right, but Strome is an RFA this year. Currently making 3.1m. Where do you think his next deal comes in? You going to give him a raise while also giving Kreider and ADA raises? I sure wouldnt. I'd trade his rights this offseason and get a guy with a contract situation like Trocheck, 2 more years at $4.75m. Not so sure nobody will buy into Strome without Panarin, his versatility to play C and wing is another plus. But say you package him with Hajek and you can target a LD replacement for Skjei who is blocked somewhere. For example, Calgary is looking for forward depth and Strome can slot in anywhere. Hanifin is blocked behind Giordano and has a better contract than Skjei. Why not Skjei for Trocheck, then Strome and Hajek for Hanifin. Not saying these specific players, but these types of trades. Again, I think these are draft time trades. I dont see this kind of shake up given where the team is now. I think the move right now is to resign Kreider if possible. If we can get him signed I wouldnt be surprised if our only move is a cap dump like Smith to someone who needs help on D.
