Politics 2020 Field - DNC

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  1. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    So was Obama. Nothing in my post suggested smart people can't become President, just that there's a pretty strong bias against them among many Americans, in my opinion.
     
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    I kind of saw Obama as kind of par for the course in terms of intelligence. I mean thats better than 5 over and still swinging in the sand.... I never once remember thinking wow this guy is like next level smart though. Is this like a you agreed with him so he’s smart?(I know that sounds terrible I dont mean that in a derogatory way just that people in general tend to think others who have similar views are smarter than those who dont). Or is it just feel? Or was there like hard (IQ) type tests proving that?
    This isnt meant as an argument, Im genuinely curious I dont think Ive ever heard someone talk about oh people were alienated by Obama’s intelligence. Im also not calling him dumb here.
     
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  3. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    The support for JFK was overwhelming except for those who hated Catholics which included most of the South.
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    No. I've "agreed" (in the limited sense of being more similar to them politically) with many politicians, but I didn't specifically call out all the Presidents or candidates I was aligned with as unusually smart.

    Every interview I read of Obama, his answers were extremely thoughtful and insightful, with a clear understanding of a wide array of concepts and the history involved. I don't know about "next level smart" which, to me, implies a genius who overturns traditional thinking--to me, Obama was one of the deepest and considered thinkers to occupy the position. I actually didn't always agree with him, but I found I always respected his positions just because they were so well considered.

    In terms of perception, his education and his status as president of the Harvard Law Review were much commented on when he was running, and he was constantly referred to as a "technocrat," a word that most literally means, IMO, someone who focuses on data and science to find evidence-based solutions for social and government issues, but seems to me to carry connotations of being overly logical and not particularly emotional, like a computer. So, to me, the widespread perception of Obama was definitely that he was an intellectual and academically-based candidate.
     
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    Interesting. FWIW I really didnt mean that comment like with my nose up and oh you only liked him cause he was yours!! Or something like that.
    My perception of him was like oh, I disagree with much of what he pushed, but I thought he was likeable, and a good leader for the most part. Really hadn't given a lot of thought to his intelligence. I actually respected him though. Thanks for your input.
     
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    Several have already been convicted and are in prison. Try to keep up.
     
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    WTF is a white state?

    Bernie has praised some of the most prolific mass murderers in history, and peddles their policies of control over the masses through poverty while he personally lives an extravagant lifestyle.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Why don't you help me with a credible link? Meanwhile, I see a lot of high ranking Trump supporters headed for prison.
     
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    Fox News Poll: Sanders knocks Biden out of first, majority thinks Trump wins

    As young voters embrace Sen. Bernie Sanders' promises of 'free' college and health care, a new study shows only 16 percent of millennials are 'financially literate.'

    Bernie Sanders pushes Joe Biden out of the frontrunner spot for the Democratic nomination, capturing a record 31 percent support among primary voters in a new Fox News Poll. This is the first 2020 Fox national poll that finds Biden not leading the Democratic race.

    The survey also finds a marked increase in the number of voters who think President Trump will win the election.

    Sanders has gained 8 percentage points since January in the nomination race, while Biden drops into second with 18 percent, down 8 points. Close behind is Mike Bloomberg at 16 percent, up 6 points since last month and triple his 5 percent in December. Pete Buttigieg comes in at 12 percent (up 5), Elizabeth Warren at 10 percent (down 4), and Amy Klobuchar at 5 percent (up 2).

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    This is the first Fox News poll with five candidates in double digits. It was conducted Sunday through Wednesday. Sanders, notably, was the most attacked candidate during Tuesday’s contentious presidential debate in South Carolina.

    Sanders performs well with groups across the board, with an extra boost from young voters, self-described liberals, whites without a college degree, and those looking for change.

    Biden is strongest among women over age 45, voters who regularly attend religious services, and those who long for a return to the pre-Trump era.

    The nomination race looks almost the same when narrowed to Democratic primary voters in the 14 Super Tuesday states: Sanders remains on top with 30 percent, followed by Bloomberg at 18 percent, Biden 17 percent, Warren 11 percent, and Buttigieg and Klobuchar each get 8 percent.


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    Fox News, what a joke.
    How about the dozen or so other respected polls that all show Trump losing especially to Bernie?
     
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    Tomorrow morning going out with my crew to knock on doors in East Bay ahead of Super Tuesday. But first we'll have pound cake. IMG_20200228_172306.jpg
     
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    You and I were young and ignorant of subtleties, and vulnerable to the media.

    In the late 60s, a rookie newspaper reader would think that everyone opposed Lyndon Johnson. Later, Carter. Later, that everyone loved Reagan. Later, against Clinton, and now against Trump.

    Political opposition was quiet in the US, from the start of the Depression to the explosion of freedom in the late 60s.

    More direct evidence against your statement: A couple of hours after the assassination, my French teacher lectured us angrily on how it was no loss. She was from France, thus Catholic.
     
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    That's funny, I knew a Swiss lady that adored him.
    No, the Germans loved him. Europeans in general loved him.
    I've never seen such a solemn occasion as his funeral. My high school class got a lecture from my German teacher on how best to preserve his memory. No one was not extremely sad at his passing.
     
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    That appears honest. It would be refreshing to vote for a candidate that does not lie as part of his personna.
     
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    I could never vote for Trump. I recognized him as a self centered narcistic jerk and liar years ago.
    It really doesn't matter who anyone votes for. The electoral college is the barb wire that chokes free elections.
    For me, if Buttigieg, Biden, Warren, Klobucher or Bloomberg advance to the nomination then I'll throw another meaningless vote that way. Sanders is not for me but I would cast a vote so Trump doesn't advance. .
     
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    Well, after STue it will be very interesting to see who's left and where the support will go?
     
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    Soooo. Joe won big today. Has he effectively climbed back in this thing? Tuesday will be all-telling.
     
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    Why are you harassing strangers in their homes enjoying family time? That's never been considered anything but rude and obnoxious. Good way to piss people off.

    "Hi, I'm from the Democratic Party and we think you might be too ignorant to think for yourself or figure out how to mail in your ballot..."

    Any party that has to coerce and bribe people to cast their vote is an empty and failed relic of the past.
     

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