OT Single-Payer Health Systems Suck

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  1. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    yep, have been for many years. Economist say we have a mix enterprise, bigger than intended government and capitalism.
     
  2. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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  3. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    That would be me but I never considered myself one of the 1%ers. I've always thought of myself as one of the 10%ers or maybe one of the 5%ers.
     
  4. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    No, you're not.
    You are conflating a product with a concept. With this you are trying to tell us there is no such thing as a valid thought experiment.
     
  5. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    This is a very ignorant comment. Not saying it's stupid, but am saying it's ignorant.
     
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  6. bluefrog

    bluefrog Go Blazers, GO!

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  7. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    One of the things I had failed to mention is that the middle class has been doing fine, just fine under Trump's policies. Not to mention, Blacks, Hispanics, et al. It's not just about the 1%ers....which has become a bit of a boorish buzzword in my estimation....

    https://www.heritage.org/markets-an...e-class-incomes-surging-thanks-trump-policies

    Middle-Class Incomes Surging – Thanks to Trump Policies

    ".....this has been one of the biggest middle-class success stories in modern times, and it is a testament to the success of the Trump tax, regulatory and energy policies."



     
  8. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Written by Stephen Moore. Classic. You genuinely ARE a troll.
     
  9. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Here's are some question you might want to ask in regards to left/right-leaning or other articles: Is it responsible reporting? Is the writer actually legitimate? A hack? Does the piece bring some facts & figures and/or other references? You know, stuff like that. Go ahead, call me a troll if you'd like. I can handle that weak sauce. Again, the point is, the middle class and less-than are certainly not suffering under Trump's economic policies, and you know it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Moore_(writer)

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/stephen-moore-trump-economy-middle-class
     
  10. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    First off, the middle class is not surging. Secondly, you linked an obviously a conservative rag that is biased and not exactly honest with the truth.

    Try looking outside your bubble.
     
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  11. TorturedBlazerFan

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    I think you could probably make a case that the middle class and upper-middle-class have a better life now than ever before. I think also you could say that our lower middle class and poor have it as bad as ever and the gaps are becoming giant voids. I don't think it is all due to Trump as I think it's been due to political sale outs of the American people for a half-century or so. All my opinion I suppose.
     
  12. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Let's not forget the women, either....

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/job-creation-exceeds-expectations-women-workers-see-gains-2/

    Oh, and other demands for labor...

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/19/its...-for-companies-to-find-qualified-workers.html
     
  13. TorturedBlazerFan

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    The second part of this isn't really a good thing... We can't get skilled workers because our education system is failing... I think we need to reform our education to something past the 1800's way of doing education but that's another topic completely.

    Of course part of the problem is some of these companies are asking for the most absurd qualifications. Love when it's like we need a "jr" engineer, with a PhD and 8 years of experience (ok I'm exaggerating a little), but last year I interviewed a computer science grad from Harvard who was talking about that companies are flat out telling her they won't hire her without experience... Which is like how are you supposed to get experience if you can't get a job...
     
  14. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Boils down to someone taking a chance.

    Same rule applies to first getting credit, an apartment, etc.
     
  15. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    Im just gonna derail this train at this point... So about those single payer health care systems.
     
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  17. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Yes?
     
  18. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Well, you ask the right questions at least. Here are the answers: No, Moore is not legitimate. Yes, he is a hack.

    barfo
     
  19. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Again, your one-sighted perspective is noted, as always.
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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