OT COVID19: Who to Blame?

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by Fez Hammersticks, Mar 20, 2020.

  1. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    11,265
    Likes Received:
    7,664
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired
    There is only one person that has been calling it the Chinese flu and he even had Corona virus crossed out and sharpie gate struck again w ith him or an aid wrote in Chinese flu. He changed the name well after the fact. Is it a big deal? No, but it's just another example of trump stirring the pot for no reason. I even heard that a republican politician say that we should boycott Asian businesses. Is this what we want the USA to be known for? Other Asian Americans have been threatened and assaulted all due to this inept president. When is enough, enough?
     
  2. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2013
    Messages:
    30,827
    Likes Received:
    13,808
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Marveling at the omnipresent and indefensible defense of der Fuhrer.
     
  3. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    40,836
    Likes Received:
    25,059
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Ballin'
    The answer to the thread title is obvious: God. As always.
     
  4. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    40,836
    Likes Received:
    25,059
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Ballin'
    Now do that for Trump Ties.

    (It would actually be perfectly on brand if MAGA hats were made in China. You could have small print on the back say "...so we don't have to make these hats in China any more".
    Wouldn't work for KAG hats, though.)
     
  5. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2013
    Messages:
    30,827
    Likes Received:
    13,808
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There are a lot of things some people did/said in the 60's but that was then, not now. For example, among other things, some freely used the "N" word to describe blacks and it was pretty much commonplace.

    Time and intelligence allow for a change in judgement.
     
    Hoopguru likes this.
  6. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    17,104
    Likes Received:
    11,726
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Systems Analyst
    Location:
    Beaverton, Oregon
    Why? The statement was about MAGA hats.
     
  7. jonnyboy

    jonnyboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2016
    Messages:
    6,619
    Likes Received:
    5,254
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Wyoming
    We were all made in ‘gina.
     
    SlyPokerDog and theprunetang like this.
  8. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Messages:
    21,684
    Likes Received:
    17,912
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I have two Asian daughter in laws and luckily they haven't been harassed both are conservative Christians, they harassed more because of that, people that harass others are usually insecure, hateful and or both. Much of it is done for sport too jokingly.
    The Spanish flu originated from the same place the Spanish fly did, I think.
    Doesn’t seem to be a problem in categorizing critizing those because of political believes, which is just as bad imo.
     
  9. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Messages:
    21,684
    Likes Received:
    17,912
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Totally agree but context is important.
    I like both Checkers and Chinese checkers.
     
  10. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    11,700
    Likes Received:
    21,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    My problem with Trump and his cronies repeatedly calling it the Chinese virus:

    First of all, it is 100% unnecessary. The virus already has a name; covid19 technically, or more generically, corona virus. It has already been named, and the entire world is calling it that. The comparison to Spanish flue and the etymology of its name is non existent. There is absolutely no reason to cross out the word "Corona virus" and sharpie in "Chinese virus" and train your whole staff to repeat it ad nauseam, unless you are doing it for a reason. It's basically a way to look down on another country, create xenophobic connotations which help to further add to Trump's nationalistic and isolationist policies, and etc.

    It's 100% unnecessary. And yes, words have consequences. People will be harrassed because of this.
     
  11. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Messages:
    21,684
    Likes Received:
    17,912
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The Ebola virus was named after a river that was near by the place of Orgin.
     
  12. TorturedBlazerFan

    TorturedBlazerFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    19,824
    Likes Received:
    23,356
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Baby Daddy
    Location:
    Chasing my kids
    I believe the virus is called Corona virus, the disease it causes is called COVID19. Yes people called it the Wuhon virus (on both sides of the media) a couple months ago, but now its clearly a political thing.
     
  13. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2013
    Messages:
    30,827
    Likes Received:
    13,808
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Chinese checkers were not named that for purely malicious/derogatory reasons. As I've said before, the reason Trump is relabeling the corona virus is so that he can inevitably deny culpability for our present situation and blame it on "China"...wait for it.
     
    CupWizier, Hoopguru and Lanny like this.
  14. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    11,700
    Likes Received:
    21,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That was named Ebola by scientists and became THE name for it. The entire world called it that. The current pandemic is called covid19 or corona virus. The whole world is calling it that. That is already THE name of it. The only one calling it anything different is Trump and his team.

    It would be like the whole world calling darts, "darts" and Trump's team calling it "British Stabby Throwies". It is 100% unnecessary.
     
  15. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    26,638
    Likes Received:
    16,951
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Elec. & Computer Engineer OSU Computer Science PSU
    Location:
    Lake Oswego, OR
    Not true. You could also say that even more help and better targeted help is being blocked by Republicans.
    This had better get negotiated to a proper compromise soon or disaster is around the corner.
     
  16. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    11,700
    Likes Received:
    21,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This is exactly what he is doing.
     
  17. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2013
    Messages:
    30,827
    Likes Received:
    13,808
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well, again, it was not named that out of malice by a mentally deficient and morally bankrupt sociopath named Trump.
     
  18. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Messages:
    21,684
    Likes Received:
    17,912
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think it’s more he wants to place the blame on China as that’s how he thinks, it’s somebody else’s fault not ours.
    I wore a NY Yankees hat on a duck-boat ride in Boston few years back and it was like I should be shot. I knew I would get reactions but wow!
     
    Lanny likes this.
  19. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    17,104
    Likes Received:
    11,726
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Systems Analyst
    Location:
    Beaverton, Oregon
    He’s also right. He is labeling it Chinese virus to throw shade at the Chinese government. And they absolutely deserve it. It has nothing to do with racism as some seem to infer. You guys seem to want to forget about why this happened. I’ve been to China multiple times and I love the people there. Their government sucks ass though.
     
  20. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Messages:
    21,684
    Likes Received:
    17,912
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I get it!
     
    Lanny likes this.

Share This Page