OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

the CFR (case fatality rate) for people 19 and under is 0.18% or 1/549)



https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/global-covid-19-case-fatality-rates/

if 30 million Americans 19 and under are 'infected' with covid, the CFR would mean 54,000 die.

There are also growing questions about immunity. A European study found that 15-20% of cleared case left people with insufficient levels of anti-bodies to prevent re-infection. And 114 patients in South Korea who were cleared for the virus came down with it again. At this point, it's unclear if it was becaause of re-activation or re-infection. Either way, it's bad news, and it's also not known if those 114 people were still infectious after being cleared

in other words, we simply don't know enough about this virus and covid yet to set smart policy. We've only been under social distancing guidelines for a month and far too many people, IMO, are acting like it's been a year, and are wanting to end policies that are definitely working because they are frustrated

 

Not the US, but I did enjoy this story.

https://kiisfm.iheart.com/content/2...p/?pname=local_social&keyid=KIIS&sc=editorial

 

I look at it this way: I have a hard time not saying stupid things when I'm calm and thoughtful. In the heat of some dumb political argument it's impossible not to say stupid things

so I tend to excuse dumb things said in the heat of the moment by others. Glass house - pot-kettle - etc.

I've been trying really hard to not get drawn into these 'interminable-drawn-out-you-dumb-me-smart-back-and-forths' that seem to take over about a half-dozen consecutive pages of threads every day. It's exhausting. I'm trying to put the other shoes on and reach some common ground with people I obviously don't agree with politically. And not dive down the rabbit holes

I don't hide I'm a liberal or that I detest trump. But I don't want to weaponize that in every post. There's no profit in it

 

Great post. We could all be a bit more like this. I'm trying to follow suit.

We all have strong opinions and can be easy to get frustrated with others who don't share or understand those opinions. Its when we start lashing out at each other because of it is when threads derail.

Not agreeing on things is a good thing in my opinion. It helps us all be more aware and understand the opposing viewpoints, which, with an open mind, helps you better understand your own viewpoint. I have always taken responsibility and understand one of my shortcomings is the inability to take the high road. I do believe I rarely try to start things, but I also have a hard time walking away once i've encountered a button pusher. I must be better at that. I will be better at that.

 

that's so stupid. The state of Oregon can't compel Abbot Labs to produce more test kits or Johnson & Johnson to produce more swabs. The feds can under the defense procurement act but trump is refusing to do it

it's clear as day that trump is trying to find and create scapegoats, other than himself of course, for this crisis. How convenient for his addled mind to be able to blame states for testing failures.

 

When the pressure is on, trump lends to distance himself and push the burden on to others just like he is doing here with the states now. A true president would be the leader and not continually deflect.

 

I’ll admit, this is a stupid tweet. Yeah, technically the states should be testing, but no state or federal governments was really prepared for this pandemic.

 

I was thinking more of a controlled opening for Oregon.

County Positive† Deaths* Negative
Baker 0 0 34
Benton 27 4 582
Clackamas 150 3 3037
Clatsop 6 0 305
Columbia 14 0 406
Coos 1 0 361
Crook 1 0 122
Curry 3 0 101
Deschutes 59 0 1185
Douglas 22 0 580
Gilliam 0 0 16
Grant 1 0 38
Harney 0 0 44
Hood River 4 0 329
Jackson 47 0 3188
Jefferson 1 0 116
Josephine 19 1 735
Klamath 29 0 981
Lake 0 0 50
Lane 45 1 1675
Lincoln 4 0 289
Linn 54 4 1217
Malheur 5 0 163
Marion 309 11 2666
Morrow 5 0 47
Multnomah 448 26 7693
Polk 30 1 533
Sherman 1 0 16
Tillamook 5 0 169
Umatilla 22 0 421
Union 4 0 88
Wallowa 1 0 21
Wasco 10 0 359
Washington 376 7 4767
Wheeler 0 0 6
Yamhill 33 6 862
Total 1736 64 33202
Age group Cases Percent Ever hospitalized‡ Deaths*
0 to 19 40 2% 3 0
20 to 29 192 11% 18 0
30 to 39 267 15% 22 0
40 to 49 322 19% 56 1
50 to 59 310 18% 60 2
60 to 69 305 18% 118 11
70 to 79 186 11% 83 18
80 and over 114 7% 54 32
Not available 0 0% - 0
Total 1736 100% 414 64

Oregon to date has had zero deaths under 40 and over half the deaths in Oregon are from the assisted living center.
Just seems are numbers look decent enough that we could in a very controlled fashion be more proactive rather than just saying well another month or two would be best?

 

Coumo owns trump

 

the SBA emergency loan distributions apparently look a little suspicious:

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-sba-paycheck-protection-program/

 

I think this is why Trump is hesitant to enact anything? Each state is better able to asses their current situation and proceed accordingly, rather than a federal mandate sweeping all states.

 

One think about New Yorkers, there not hesitant to hit back or get in your face.
Trumps text were ridiculous.

 

Dirtbag

 

3 deaths under 60. Of course, that way to many for sure!

 

Antibody research indicates coronavirus may be far more widespread than known
Of 3,300 people in California county up to 4% found to have been infected.

A critical question in the path towards the future is how many people actually have protective novel coronavirus antibodies and possible immunity? Two research teams in California -- backed by armies of dedicated volunteers -- set out to answer this very question and the first set of results are in.

The first large-scale community test of 3,300 people in Santa Clara County found that 2.5 to 4.2% of those tested were positive for antibodies -- a number suggesting a far higher past infection rate than the official count.

Based on the initial data, researchers estimate that the range of people who may have had the virus to be between 48,000 and 81,000 in the county of 2 million -- as opposed to the approximately 1,000 in the county's official tally at the time the samples were taken.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/antib...ead/story?id=70206121&cid=social_twitter_abcn

 

And as we've discussed before, there's reason for that.

 

It appears the states that have refused to do a shut down are ones who have received a higher share of the money. Wonder why that is?