OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood!

 

The tweets are to bring his voice, regardless if you are to agree to the public. In fact, any celebrity or high profile person can do this. That is making them more obsolete.

You are very much entitled to your opinion. I just see it differently. Jumping on a story without proper vetting has been the media’s new mantra. Look no further than abc misreporting the Kobe helicopter crash as one example. Or one agency reporting the death of everyone involved before the first responder giving the news to the victims’ families.

The media is being under a microscope, which is a great thing.

 

Sitting by yourself in front of a computer screen isn’t a gathering. I’m not saying it’s wise to have large gatherings right now, but let’s not pretend technology is any sort of substitute for human connection. Bill Gates and other tech dork maniacs may suggest otherwise while they peddle their defective gadgets and software, but they are wrong.

 

I haven’t looked outside yet. Is the sun shining?

 

Sure is, full of vitality too!

 

Just when we thought the baby boomers get all the good things, they get this.

 

It seems it’s very tough to make RNA-viral vaccines.

Yeah, it should be a while. That’s why I think the 18 month timeline maybe unrealistic.

 

Agree. I think of the virtual screen time more like the connection we have talking on the phone with video. I personally do not constitute that as a gathering.

 

It seems I created a debate with the attorneys in the law firm that represents us. They don’t agree. But here’s the latest argument of pro-shutdown.

“And yet there are laws regulating false speech, and curfews, and business hours. The court issues restraining orders every day.

Why do you think that is?

Oh yeah. If a law abridges one of those freedoms and passes the strict scrutiny test, then the government can put limits on time and place.

The limit put in place is not right now. The place is no public gatherings where social distancing cannot be practiced.

You know better. You went to law school.”

 

One of my kids sent me this article this morning..I cant stand that Levin guy, but the article Interesting but who knows he may be a quack?

Dr. David Katz: Coronavirus vaccine or herd immunity are only ways life can fully return to normal
Dr. David Katz, the founding director of the Yale-Griffin Prevention Research Center in Connecticut, has warned that while social distancing is helping to mitigate the spread of the coronavirus, it is also preventing the development of the "herd immunity" needed by the public to resume their normal lives before a vaccine is developed.

Katz cited the case of some Asian nations who appeared to stop the spread with lockdown-style mitigation strategies, only to see an increase in cases once restrictions were relaxed.

"That's what will happen if you lock everybody away from everybody else and kind of wait until things get better and then let everybody out into the world".

"The virus is still out there," Katz added. "We don't have antibodies. We'll just get it later."

Katz and host Mark Levin discussed the concept of "herd immunity," essentially collective resistance to a virus built up by people moving about, becoming infected, and recovering -- thereby naturally developing antibodies to inhibit further spreading the virus among the population.

As an example of herd immunity, Katz told Levin that if the doctor developed antibodies but Levin did not because he was not part of the "herd," he could not contract the virus from Katz because the doctor doesn't have it.

"f all you do is flatten the curve, you don't prevent deaths or severe cases. You just change the dates. We don't want to do that," said Katz.

Katz said the only two options for staving off coronavirus for the foreseeable future are herd immunity or a vaccine. Scientists say a vaccine could be a year or more away, while President Trump, businessmen, economists and many out-of-work Americans fear the U.S. economy may never recover from an entire year of stagnation and unemployment.

If enough of the population were to develop antibodies and the process repeated itself exponentially, Katz explained, it would create innumerable "dead ends" that stop the virus from spreading.

"It finds it harder to get to a host where it can survive and it dies out," the doctor said of the virus. "That's herd immunity."

"The numbers of us that need to have antibodies vary with the properties of a given contagion," he added. "And we're learning what the properties of this particular contagion are. That also needs to come from data."

Giving another example, Katz told Levin that if he were immune to coronavirus, he would be able to visit his elderly mother without worrying about contracting COVID-19.

"My mother doesn't want to get coronavirus and die [but] she also doesn't want to die of something else before ever again being able to hug her grandchildren because she's still waiting for a vaccine," Katz said. "Herd immunity gives us [a] much more proximal way to get back to life in the world as we knew it."

 

Whaa. I don’t get to assemble. I’m gonna cry about it. Fuck public health don’t tread on my rights. Such idiots.

 

Without question anyone protesting and assembling in these groups should be disqualified from any Covid treatment. Who could argue that? Nobody

 

Well, if that's the case then I'll quit wishin and go fishin!

 

I agree its more of a capacity issue, but his point is until a vaccine is available if there even is, the disease isn't going anywhere, were just locking it up because of capacity issues.
My son told me Kaiser is now going to tear down the tents for capacity help.
If heard immunity isn't viable why do so many doctors talk about it as a natural progression for the virus to run its course?
Even the article you just posted talked about a vaccine may not even be possible and the virus may just need to run its course.
In the mean time we cant burn down the house to try and save the house.

 

Look no further than Fox News riding the wave of an obvious astroturfing campaign yesterday. Or are we fooled into thinking these spontaneous protests were organic?

 

Dan Crenshaw with a headshot.

 

Also, what's with eating dog shit? That's got to encourage the spread of Covid19. That's all in addition to the habit being seriously disgusting.

 

Never said Fox is not part of the problem. But I’m sure we can agree that their voice is much smaller than MSM. Add up MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, and CBS; who trumps (pardon the pun) the viewership of Fox News.