Politics Turning GA, NC, NV, and/or PA into victory (Biden vs Trump, 2020 election!)

Tack another 80,000 dead bodies on there for diabetes (insulin isn’t expensive out of pocket is it? You know, when a million people lose their jobs and insurance.)

 

Those were 2018 numbers, but my point still stands.

 

lol...I just think maybe it's time to turn the page on that "Word of the Day" calendar.

 

if you're going into a soup fight you'll be needing one of these!

 

Well, there it is. We've finally found the most stupid thing to criticize Trump for. There are zillions of legitimate ones, but bashing him for a program that was recommended by every epidemiologist out there and which successfully avoided the massive number of deaths that were predicted absent the stay at home push, seems pretty much crazy. Especially when it was the governors of the individual states who actually implemented it.

 

All of that data on deaths reflect numbers based upon people who have diseases that they are able to get medical treatment for. The death rates would be much higher if there weren't those treatments available. At the start of this outbreak, there were zero effective medical treatments available and even now we're just in the testing stage of possible drugs to combat COVID-19. Without the stay at home orders, the number of deaths would have been much greater, possibly ten or more times as great, than the 42,000 we've had to date with the social distancing.

 

Those projections are estimates and nothing more. So far NONE of the estimates have come even remotely close, and those are estimates that account for having social distancing in place.

 

Are we sure about this?

Here is an example I believe leans the other way.

My mother is in lockdown and has been for a long time. elderly home. one of the first to go into lock down. 3 days ago the head fricken chef became positive. Their lockdown has started over again and they have had 6 deaths for corona.

To me it seems the lockdown hasnt helped as it had already spread once with the 19 positive cases and new ones still popping up a month or more later. It seems to me all we are doing is locking down positives with negative3sd and denying the negatives the ability to get out and away.

To me it seems we should build huge quarantine facilities and send the positive cases there and let the negatives continue working to provide the supplies and labor needed to make this happen.

More testing and separation.... less lockdown.

 

I suppose, according to new polling, this has now become the #1 issue with this election, so it is on topic here.

This virus is highly contagious. There is ample amount of data to support that claim. That supports that there is a high chance that most of Americans have already or will eventually get Covid-19 exposure, even with strict mitigation. But that same data also supports the mortality rate is extremely low. Maybe even lower than the flu.

Something to think about

 

Sure, but who knew that going into this? We had WHO saying there would be a 3% plus mortality rate. A lot of people questioned that and were projecting something more in the 1% range. Nobody knew that there would be so many asymptomatic cases. It looks like the actual morality rate will turn out to be more in line with flu, but that's with social distancing in place. Despite the fact that it doesn't look like the original dire estimates were anywhere near correct, we were absolutely not prepared for a pandemic even with a less virulent disease like this. Nowhere near enough protective masks, gowns, etc. Nowhere near enough ventilators. Nowhere near enough testing kits. Hospital space in New York was taxed to its limits. Imagine what it would have been like if the original mortality estimates were right. Public policy has to be based on the best estimates known at a given time. Social distancing has bought us time to get prepared for a second wave in a way that will not have to be nearly as drastic as what was done this time.

 

My mom's in a senior care facility as well. They had a couple of cases in the assisted living portion of the facility, but fortunately none in the senior apartment portion where she lives. I haven't been able to see her in person since this whole thing started and I don't like that either.

The idea of testing and sending positive cases to a quarantine facility, or even just quarantining them at home, is where we need to get to, but it's dependent on the availability of widespread accurate testing. I think that may be viable by the time there's a second wave, if we can push it off until late next fall or winter, but we aren't anywhere close to that right now. Given that some 25-50% of cases appear to be asymptomatic, the only way that works is if we all voluntarily send in regular test kits so we can be checked on an ongoing basis. They just approved the first at-home test kit today.

 

Michelle as VP and Barack on SCOTUS? Now THAT'S progress!

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/04/biden-pick-michelle-obama-vp-heartbeat-200421142952366.html

 

She would definitely bring more “out to vote” regardless of qualifications. No wonder Biden would do it in a heartbeat. Like it or not, she’s a very “likable” person.

 

I'm pretty certain (gut instinct) Barack carefully toes the line with her.

 

I actually voted for Obama his first term. Probably said that already somewhere in these threads. There is no doubt either of them are very “statesmen-like.” I wouldn’t vote for them again. I’m not confident being a statesmen is what’s best for the country right now.

 

Interestingly, Barack's half-brother still challenges Barack's birthplace. A dead horse by now, but still interesting....especially interesting that Malik is a staunch (and 2020) Trump supporter.

 

First...This is 1000% speculation on my part. Lets call it a hunch.

I have been scratching my head bald trying to figure out why some countries are having a much worse time than others with this C-19 virus.

There are a ton of charts showing a ton of info, but no answers., I may have found an angle worth more research. The short answer is obesity.

When you compare all of the countries C-19 morality rate to their obesity rate. The similarities are scary. The higher a countries obesity rate, the higher their C-19 death rate. Here are several examples.

India has a obesity rate of 3.9%. A mortality C-19 death rate of .44 per milion.

Korea 4.7%....4.59 per million
USA 36.2% obesity and 129 per million death rate.

In other words. The rich overfeed bad diet countries are having a worse time with this virus than the poor underfeed or healthy eating countries. There are a few exceptions, but not many.

This same theory may apply within a country's population. But I'm done for the day grinding numbers.