Politics Turning GA, NC, NV, and/or PA into victory (Biden vs Trump, 2020 election!)

Well, it's kind of another baked-in "problem" (a problem, depending on your perspective; not everyone considers it a problem)--if you have two huge parties that cater to such massive sections of the population, how do you find a candidate that's acceptable to so many people, with such diverse views? Ultimately, it ends up being either a blandly acceptable candidate (someone older with a lot of experience, often white, often male, without a lot of provocative views) or a niche candidate who rides a small but passionate constituency through a large and divided field. The Joe Bidens and Mitt Romneys are the first type. Donald Trump was the second type and Bernie Sanders could have been that too, had the field not managed to consolidate against him in time this year.

To me, Barack Obama was an exception (I'm sure there are plenty on this forum who think he was an awful candidate too), but that kind of winning candidate is rare--someone who doesn't conform to a bland generic model, nor was he a niche candidate who was the largest splinter.

It's a hard problem to solve--how do you find a compelling candidate who is acceptable to lots of people? The fundamental paradox is that what makes a candidate compelling to one person often makes them problematic to someone else.

 

Therein lies the problem...if there were one.

 

Trump got the nomination in 2016 because the other candidates failed to consolidate against him early on.

I get that you like some of Trump’s policies, but I can’t imagine that you favor the way he berates people or makes ridiculous comments when he goes off script. Surely there must be someone that would tick your policy boxes without being such an ass.

 

I've said in here many, many times...John Kasich was/is my guy. I would've voted for him in 2016 and would vote for him in 2020. Perhaps, 2024.

 

That's quite a personality range from Kasich to Trump.

 

Indeed. I think he would've moved the American Embassy, as well, to Jerusalem...where it belongs.

 

Or maybe your standards are just too low.

 

Lol

 

Perhaps, but then I don't drink the quantity of rum that you do.

You may be right though:

 

That would make him a trump supporter then and I'm pretty sure he isn't.

 

I honestly have a hard time figuring out when you're trying to be serious or not so I usually just joke around. lol

For a sort of more serious answer, there have been some particular candidates I didn't mind for one reason or another and some time a politician wins that even if I don't really align with their politics I don't really mind that they're the president. I wasn't a fan of a lot of things Obama did, but I didn't mind him as a president, seemed like a nice guy, smart, etc. There were a few democratic candidates this time around I found interesting and sort of liked, Yang comes to mind he never had a chance to win, but I thought he had interesting idea's (even if kind of gimmicky IMO), and seemed to understand the 'future' better than older candidates that seemed to feel out of touch (also my opinion).
I think I most closely align myself towards being a libertarian, and while I certainly don't think any time in the next 20 years or so there will be a third party in the white-house I think the corruption at the top of the parties seems pretty disgusting and far-reaching. I cannot see myself actively supporting either party unless a lot of things change. I'd love to see a third-party start making noise at a more local level.
I tend to vote libertarian not just because I think they come fairly close to how I feel politically but because I don't believe the democrat and GOP elites have the best interest of the country in mind.

Politics has always been a game (for centuries before the USA was a thing) that only a few have ever wanted to dabble in because it's a sly eat sly world out there, and there are plenty of other avenues to have success in life that don't require so much of a person's private life to be strewn about for everyone to see. I think the real issue is good leaders are hard to come by and many get ate up by politics along the way, it's not so much how do you incentivize being a public servant, it's how do you prepare children, young adults, college kids that may have the goals of leadership at some level politically or privately and help them develop the qualities required to last in politics while still being able to perform the jobs.

 

Hillary led all those states and more by much wider margins pre-2016 election. Something to think about before you start doing cartwheels.

 

I think you have too many negatives in that first part...?