OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

True, it would require FDA approval for use in the US, but I would think that they would give emergency approval if the British testing is positive.

 

Would be awesome if they can

 

I just find it hard to believe that they could have a vaccine by September. Trump is probably just putting pressure on scientists to get done.

 

I don’t think it’s that. I think the biochem companies are actually trying to become the first with the vaccine. Multiple Billions are at stake.

 

Financial Times: the Covid death toll could be as much as 60% higher than reported....

https://www.ft.com/content/6bd88b7d-3386-4543-b2e9-0d5c6fac846c

apparently, the NY Times has done a similar comparison and reached the same conclusion. Obviously, different countries have different levels of exceeded death rates, but it's hard to imagine it's just coincidence

 

Florida is blocking the release of info by medical examiners now.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/healt...tm_content=@TB_Tmes&__twitter_impression=true


When you don't like the numbers and they dispute the "official" numbers....simply stop posting them....after all, trump likes his covid number "lower"....Desantis got the memo

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speaking of slimy bullshit....here's your SBA stimulus in all it's corrupt glory:

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/lux...ppp-loans-investment-trusts/story?id=70371142

 

this is where we are right now:

at a time when we pass 1 million cases and a lowball estimate of 60,000 deaths....trump; barr and the doj; conservative media; and some R governors are doing everything they can to undermine stay at home and social distancing guidelines enacted by states. Doing everything they can to 'violate' the advise of just about every expert on health policy. They are making a giant bet on trying to get the orange asshole re-elected, and the chips they are going all-in with are the lives of American workers and their families. The right-wing idiot governors of Iowa and Nebraska are now ordering people back to work and insisting they will take away unemployment benefits from any worker who doesn't show up....and it doesn't fucking matter how many children or how many elderly family members are put at risk in the homes of those workers. It's reprehensible.

 

Ohio has a rule against mass gatherings of over 100 people and DeWine has been fairly responsible so far. It would be great if he would not allow a rally in his state, but that's too much to ask for an R governor I imagine

 

Yes, and Trump ordered meat packing plants to open where already hundreds of cases and numerous deaths. CDC guidelines are purely voluntary. Governors of Iowa and Nebraska said any worker who doesn't report to work out of fear of infection is not only fired but will not receive unemployment compensation. Law enforcement, medical, and public health officers pleaded not to reopen without protection and were ignored. Die for Trump.

 

Well, here's a really poopy idea that might do some good:

https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavi...s-when-the-coronavirus-lockdown-will-end.html

 

whats crazy though is it could be 100% higher and it would still be dramatically less than their models showed in march and February (from what I understand the models included social distancing)... I am glad its less then their models. Yet a lot of the numbers at this point just feel like people taking stabs in the dark, I swear it feels like everyday I read articles saying its way worse and articles saying its way better.

Very interesting real life class in statistics and data science going on right now.

Think its safe to say we can definitely question the formula’s the experts, are using and hopefully all of this experience helps them to better map out and formulate data going forward.

 

Listen to the doctors the nursees and all the hospital workers for the real story. Majority are saying there is still a shortage of supplies and we have no coordinated effort on testing from the government.

 

How do we judge a majority are saying that? Is their a statistic for that? Im not being facetious I am simply asking.
Seems like much of its probably based on geography. Some places seem to be hit much harder than others.

 

Yes, some areas are hit harder than others, but listening to the healthcare workers no matter where they are at pretty much say the same story. We are all part of the United States and a coordinated effort for PPE, testing equipment, facilities etc should have been done long ago but all this administration is interested in is getting people back to work with very little concern for safety. Severasl states have been opening their states and none have met the CDC guidelines and then we have this idiot as vice president that arrogantly shows up at the Mayo clinic and was the only one not wearing a mask even after he was requested to wear a mask.

By the way, this is not a success story because we have less deaths than projected. All that tells me is the projections were way off.

 

Newsome closing all the California beaches and parks

 

I disagree...are you assuming the worst is over? One month ago there was about 3000 total deaths. In the month of April, alone, there have been nearly 57,000 deaths, and there are still 2 days left in the month. And that number is almost certainly underestimating the totals.

the estimates from March that I remember are 100,000 to 200,000 dead; I can't remember how many restrictions were used in those calculations. At this rate, we might hit the 80,000 dead mark by mid-May. What will be the number by the solstice? What will be the number if Dr. Fauci is right and we have a spike next fall and winter? What will be the number if a vaccine is not widely available till sometime in summer of 2021?

I'm not seeing a disconnect between those 100,000-200,000 estimates and the trajectory we are on.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/04/29...close-by-2021-green-street-advisors-says.html

Over 50% of department stores in malls predicted to close by 2021, real estate services firm says