Politics Doctors in Black

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  1. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    This lady is just anti vaxx quack. Funny all the rogue doctors and scientists trying to capitalize on this
     
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    What lady?
     
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    She’s not anti vax. She actually worked under Dr Fauci during the AIDS research. A molecular biologist.
     
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    She’s a quack looking for notoriety
     
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    Show me in that video where she’s wrong?
     
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    In 1980, Mikovits was awarded a Bachelor of Sciencedegree in Chemistry with a specialization in biology at the University of Virginia. After graduation, she went to the National Cancer Institute in Frederick, Maryland, where she developed purification methods for Interferon alpha. In 1986–1987, she started working at Upjohn Pharmaceuticals in Kalamazoo, Michigan, working to develop production methods to ensure biological materials manufactured using human blood products were free of contamination from HIV-1. In 1992 she completed a joint PhD program in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at George Washington University.[11] Her PhD thesis was titled "Negative Regulation of HIV Expression in Monocytes."Mikovits was a postdoctoral scholar in molecular virology at the Laboratory of Genomic Diversity, National Cancer Institute, under Dr. David Derse.
     
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    Okay, I’ll unpack the snopes fact check more a bit later, but I already found a major inconsistency on their first link.

    http://retractionwatch.com/2012/06/...yres-author-andrulis-publishes-another-paper/

    First, the charges link was on a suspended account, which seems suspicious, but then again it’s snopes. I tried searching around and found another link here:
    http://retractionwatch.com/2011/11/19/chronic-fatigue-syndrome-researcher-judy-mikovits-arrested/

    So she was arrested on a process crime by another State:
    Then later sued by the company she worked for, but that company dropped the charges. Why?
    I’ll look into the rest when I’m on a computer.
     
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    Ummm the whole video.

    It’s all conspiracy theory by some lady with an axe to grind with Fauci.

    The fact I have to explain that to you is pretty silly.

    This shit is going around on my social media and people are believing this shit. But then again the right loves kooky conspiracy theories to hold onto. Always looking for someone to blame.
     
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    she says that. But then keeps reiterating that vaxx is evil.
     
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    I don’t accept that answer. At least @SlyPokerDog provided a snopes link. I’ll be fact checking snopes, because they aren’t a reputable fact checker. If information given to me is logical, I will change my position. Nothing has been presented so far has changed my mind.
     
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    Being anti-flu vaccine isn’t anti-vax. That’s like saying, “Because you are anti Hydroxychloroquine, you are anti-medicine.” That’s a complete straw man.

    Immune therapy uses vaccines. The measles vaccine is a form of immune therapy.
     
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    Shit, it looks like this fact check has nothing to do with her claims regarding the vaccine. It's only a fact check that she wasn't jailed because she refused to discredit research.

    Do you have anything else because this isn't a fact check on her claims.

    EDIT: Nevermind.. The fact check is misleading. They are inserting other links regarding the claims. I'll start my research
     
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    Okay, the snopes, "fact check" that she was arrested because of her report is false, just as they claimed. She was arrested for a process crime regarding a lawsuit in another state, later that case was dropped.

    It also seems the study: Detection of an Infectious Retrovirus, XMRV, in Blood Cells of Patients with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, has been debunked by science:
    "Science is fully retracting the report “detection of an infectious retrovirus, XMRV, in blood cells of patients with chronic fatigue syndrome” (1). Multiple laboratories, including those of the original authors (2), have failed to reliably detect xenotropic murine leukemia virus–related virus (XMRV) or other murine leukemia virus (MLV )–related viruses in chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) patients. In addition, there is evidence of poor quality control in a number of specific experiments in the Report. Figure 1, table S1, and fig. S2 have been retracted by the authors (3). In response to concerns expressed about Fig. 2C [summarized in (4)], the authors acknowledged to Science that they omitted important information from the legend of this figure panel. Specifically, they failed to indicate that the CFS patient–derived peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMCs) shown in Fig. 2C had been treated with azacytidine as well as phytohemagglutinin and interleukin-2. This was in contrast to the CFS samples shown in Figs. 2A and 2B, which had not been treated with azacytidine.

    Given all of these issues, Science has lost confidence in the Report and the validity of its conclusions. We note that the majority of the authors have agreed in principle to retract the Report but they have been unable to agree on the wording of their statement. It is Science's opinion that a retraction signed by all the authors is unlikely to be forthcoming. We are therefore editorially retracting the Report. We regret the time and resources that the scientific community has devoted to unsuccessful attempts to replicate these results."

    Okay, thanks @SlyPokerDog for clarification.
     
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    Define “rogue doctor” for us, if you would please.

    For context, Bill Gates doesn’t even have a fucking PhD and every “reputable” mainstream media outlet is trying to shove his cock down our throats. People are fawning over his uneducated, unprofessional opinions and you are worried about accredited scientists and doctors daring to have opinions different than yours.
     
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    I’d say people like Buttars guy. This nutty lady, the 2 doctors from Bakersfield all are trying to make a name for themselves. Insinuating that Fauci created the Coronavirus in an attempt to make money off it.

    You can be an accredited scientist or doctor and still have an ulterior motive.

    I understand with this virus it’s cool to be cutting edge and dig the conspiracy garbage. Whatever floats your boat.

    The lady is anti vaxx nut with an axe to grind with Fauci. She lied to open up with how the government was throwing her in jail. She claimed to not be an anti-vaxx loon, but then at least 3 times in the corny interview stated how it’s all a plot to make money off these vaccinations.

    its shit that I wouldn’t buy into if I was tripping on some good shrooms. Yet it’s flooding social media and people are buying into it
     

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