OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. ehizzy3

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    Best case scenario 36 months? best?
     
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    Lol fear mongering
     
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    Wisconsin state supreme Court heard arguments on challenge to governor's stay at home order. This is same court that ruled in person election had to take place as scheduled even though thousands of voters who had requested absentee ballots had not received them.

    Court, including recently voted out justice, made their position clear as they repeatedly interrupted witnesses, refused to allow testimony.

    Note court was working remotely.

    When state mentioned large outbreaks, a justice said these were meatpacking plants, not regular people. Regular people. Remember when LA racist former police chief said black people died from choke holds because their blood vessels didn't open as quickly as normal people?

    Regular people. White and middle class. Those low income, black, LatinX, immigrants working in meat packing aren't regular people. Let them die.
     
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    Sweet stereotype. Keep in mind, not all states engage in full exploitation of illegal immigrants the way California does.
     
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    Just when you think this admin can't stoop any lower

     
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    FFFUUUUUCCCCKKKKK!!!!!!!!

    Stunts. Media...

    im not making excuses for the stunt. That is about as stupid as one can get.

    But, I think the media helps propelle this line of thinking.

    This was an idiot move by the VP.
     
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    Just like this administration, delivering empty promises.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Yeah, the economy is in a dreadful position but the alternative is a living nightmare that is worse. Also, how good is the economy going to be when we have a quarter Million or more deaths and several Million infections?
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I thought their gas sales were a loss leader along with their barbecue chicken.
     
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    Pence staffer has now also tested positive.
     
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    Yeah.

    People aren't going to return to work in droves and return to stores in droves if they either are dead or afraid of contracting the virus, if not for themselves, at least for the risk of passing it on to someone else. Being a warrior for the economy isn't a lot of solace if you wind up on a ventilator for a week or infected Grandma.

    That's part of this that was botched from the start, IMO. We never had that "the only thing to fear is fear itself" or "ask what you can do for your country" moment. The most resounding messages from a month of two-hour-long press conferences was "You know why I can do that? Because I'm the president and I have absolute authority" and "That's a nasty question." That and all these mixed messages and contradictions and constantly driving over your own towline.

    In a desperate situation, as a leader, you need to find a way to make people feel you are empathetic with them. You need to make strong decisions and stick to them unless it is obvious after more info comes in that a change of course is necessitated. You have to appear that you are in command of the situation. If you get sidetracked, talk vaguely, don't seem to have a plan. and can't get your message across, how do you expect people to feel it's worth their while to go out more than they absolutely have to?

    You can't say tests are available to everyone when they provably aren't. You can't tell people to wear masks and then not wear one yourself -- especially when you are part of the most at-risk demographic.

    I think the federal government needed to push for a shutdown like the one we had, but across the board, earlier. It needed to make testing a priority and it had to grant protections for individuals and small businesses. If that had happened, I feel strongly we were looking at rebooting our economy by the middle of this month and that people would feel more comfortable in returning to routine.

    All the mixed messages did was confuse people, create an everyone-for-themself mentality, and potentially set in motion a situation where we're going to have another partial shutdown that's just going to make it harder to bring the economy back.
     
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    They make skinny margins 4/5% on most whole goods they sell. In order to get their business you have to meet certain volume criteria. They sell limited SKU's and don't replenish seasonal items.
    Im sure they make something on gas but need to hit volume targets. They have recently purchased their own chicken processing plant for the $5 buzzard bait!
     
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    I've got my fingers crossed.
     
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    I know they're losing money on the chickens and it seems impossible for them to make money on gasoline given their low low price plus the 3% rebate on gas. I see them as making money on everything else.
     
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    lol...Ditto.
     
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    Trump's going to be pissed!
     
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    Unfortunately I never think they can't go lower.
     
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    Nobody can "re-open" the economy if people largely don't want it re-opened. Many polls show that even if all the businesses re-opened a large majority of people wouldn't be comfortable returning to mixing with lots of other people at non-essential businesses.

    Governors or mayors choosing to re-open things right now will just compromise the efforts already undergone and potentially for small economic benefit if many people don't return to shopping and engaging in services as normal.
     
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