Rumor BarrShootsDownTrumpgate?

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  1. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    He should be impeached from being an ex-president.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    the fact that he won the popular vote AND the electoral, twice, proves he needed to be under investigation from the moment he made his speech at the 2004 DNC.
     
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    COMPLETELY AGREE!
    Post of the year!!!
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    UNMASKING EXPLAINED

    WHAT IS UNMASKING?


    During routine, legal surveillance of foreign targets, names of Americans occasionally come up in conversations. Foreigners could be talking about a U.S. citizen or U.S. permanent resident by name, or a foreigner could be speaking directly to an American. When an American's name is swept up in surveillance of foreigners, it is called 'incidental collection.' In these cases, the name of the American is masked before the intelligence is distributed to administration officials to avoid invading that person's privacy.

    Unless there is a clear intelligence value to knowing the American´s name, it is not revealed in the reports. The intelligence report would refer to the person only as 'U.S. Person 1' or U.S. Person 2.' If U.S. officials with proper clearance to review the report want to know the identity, they can ask the agency that collected the information - perhaps the FBI, CIA or National Security Agency - to 'unmask' the name.

    Unmasking requests are common, according to Michael Morell, former CIA deputy director and host of 'Intelligence Matters' podcast.

    'Literally hundreds of times a year across multiple administrations. In general, senior officials make the requests when necessary to understand the underlying intelligence. I myself did it several times a month and NSA adjudicates the request. You can't do your job without it,' he said.

    Morell emphasized that unmasking is not the same as declassification. 'When a name is unmasked, the underlying intelligence to include the name remains classified so leaking it would be a crime.'

    WHEN WOULD AN INTELLIGENCE AGENCY UNMASK A NAME?

    The request is not automatically granted. The person asking has to have a good reason. Typically, the reason is that not knowing the name makes it impossible to fully understand the intelligence provided.

    The name is released only if the official requesting it has a need to know and the 'identity is necessary to understand foreign intelligence information or assess its importance,' according to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence's latest report, which includes statistics on unmasking. 'Additional approval by a designated NSA official is also required.'

    Former NSA Director Mike Rogers has said that only 20 of his employees could approve an unmasking. The names are shared only with the specific official who asked. They are not released publicly. Leaking a name, or any classified information, is illegal.

    HOW OFTEN ARE NAMES UNMASKED?

    The number of unmasking requests began being released to the public in response to recommendations in 2014 from the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board.

    There were 9,217 unmasking requests in the 12-month period between September 2015 and August 2016, the first period in which numbers are publicly available. The period was during the latter years of the Obama administration.

    The number rose during the Trump administration. The 9,529 requests in 2017 grew to 16,721 in 2018 and 10,012 last year.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...answer-questions-Mike-Flynns-prosecution.html
     
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    #NotMyExPresident
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    That was so long ago that I can't recall anything about it.
    Your post was a response to a totally different post.
    Next time you want to bring up a dinosaur how about referencing it else the whole thing is wildly misleading.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    That was the start of the exchange! Lol
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Trump likes to belittle Obama as an attempt to secure the racist vote
     
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    id be willing to bet that if he wins, the initial thought from the DNC will be something is wrong or rigged.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I think one of the most upsetting things about this, is that it showed us that there are more racists out there, or people who are ok with racist behaviors from people, than I foolishly thought there was.

    That and a lot of people stayed home in 16.
     
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    Pretty sure everybody on the planet regardless of affiliation has known both those things are true for decades......not a news flash as much as the status quo unfortunately...but Trump won't win this one I assure you...he has more closet GOP enemies than folks think and they already got the tax cuts and supreme court judges they wanted all along...whoever loses an election usually bitches about it...but this one is more than just an election...it's damage control
     
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    Republicans will always get that ‘I don’t know shit about politics whatsoever, but ‘MERICA!’ vote.

    It’s definitely a nice little boost
     
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    Exactly. That's why the argument that, "Some Trump voters weren't racist, they just felt economic anxiety, which is completely valid!" doesn't resonate with me. I agree that not all Trump voters voted for him because of his racist positions and posturing--but they all voted for him despite those racist positions and posturings, which means that they're comfortable with that. When the argument boils down to "they're not racist, they're just okay with racism," I don't think a very good point is being made.
     
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    Mags, I had to search through six pages of this thread just to find a nothing burger. Yep, out of the 105 posts prior to yours I had to spend time looking for my post that you meant to reference. Please give a person some sort of reference so they'll figure out what the heck you're talking about.

    I was not referring to an official investigation but rather a bunch of pin heads who tried to find something on their own. All you had to do was ask me to clarify.

    I presumed that you meant an official investigation. Was I wrong?
     
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    I would love to see a debate between Obama and trump. It would be like the Yankees playing the Bad News Bears without their pitcher and best hitter. Not pretty, but funny as hell.
     
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    Donald trump jr.?????? :biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:
     
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    hey mags, why is your boy now discounting what the CDC advises and tossed away the guidelines they set up? We have places all over the USA opening up and haven't even come close to meeting the minimum guidelines set up by his task force and the CDC and now he downplays the need for testing.In fact, he even said if we didn't test we would have fewer cases. Can you explain to us common folk how that can happen? Just don't test and all the corona cases go away?
     
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    ehizzy3 RIP mgb

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    Trump has ODS

    Obama derangement syndrome
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    A lot of Obama being a responsible and respectful individual while Trump fails to bait him into argument with his childlike tactics.

    Certainly would be entertaining!
     
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