<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 12 2007, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Andrew Bynum next season could average 10/10 and eventually will be a 20/10 guy. Now that mihm is gone( I believe he is a free agent) Bynum will see some significant minutes and the guy has some serious potential as much as gerald green I believe.</div>I don't see why Mihm leaving the team would affect him at all at this point. Mihm's been out since early March of 06.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (time takes time @ Jul 12 2007, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>but al jefferson was never "stashed away". Just because he came out of high school doesn't put him in that category. Even last year, in his sophomore year he got good playing time and decent numbers when he was healthy. He was hardly at the end of the bench, like mostly all of the other players listed.</div>It's not like the players on this list can't be on the rotation. Andray Blatche and Andrew Bynum are all in their respective teams rotations. However despite Al and these other players getting minutes it's usually limited. Big Al got 14 MPG his rookie year and 18 MPG his sophomore season. Those are the kind of minutes all projects like Al get. Let's compare Jefferson's sophomore minutes with other projects sophomore minutes:Andray Blatche 12 MPGAndrew Bynum 21 MPGTravis Outlaw 13 MPGAs you can see, Jefferson did get a couple more minutes than most of these players but there is no drastic difference.
What about some of these overseas players...Joel Freeland might end up being a fair player for the Blazers, but is a few years away. Ian Mahinmi for the Spurs was the big secret of the 2005 draft; I dont quite know how he's doing. 7-foot-2 Kosta Perovic is coming over to the Warriors next season, but I bet he'll struggle in that system.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BluffCityBlue @ Jul 12 2007, 08:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How was he a major factor in the playoffs? He averaged 19 minutes and 6ppg starting in none of the games. His rookie season he only averaged 14mpg, and the next only 18mpg. Al Jefferson obviously progressed ALOT faster than the others...but when Boston took him they knew he was going to get little minutes but the coaching staff would progress him along...and a future all-star is the result.Btw, I didnt say he was a stash-away player this season...cause for a large part of the season, Jefferson was the main focus of the Boston offense.</div>How was he a key factor in the playoffs against Indiana? He played excellent basketball off the bench. Obviously he's not gonna start in the playoffs as a rookie behind Antoine Walker and Raef LaFrentz (who had a great season that year). So you're saying he wasn't a big factor just because he "only got 19 minutes per game?" Please... he had some huge games for us off the bench, especially in Game 1, and 19 minutes is a lot for a bench player in the playoffs (especially a rookie out of high school). Just because he didn't get starter's minutes doesn't mean he wasn't a key factor.And in year 2, he had bad ankle problems. Right when he started playing well and earning more minutes, he hurt his ankle again and that F*cked his sophomore season. So, he really was a key player in our rotation then too, and he gradually earned more minutes and produced.You can't just look at his minutes per game, think "well only 18" or whatever, and say he was a "stash-away" player like an Amir Johnson.
So you are saying that in his rookie season, the Boston Celtics didnt take him to develope him to fullfil his potential without playing him too much cause they didnt want to hinder his developement...they DID do that...and I stated that he progressed ALOT faster than the other players. I dont know why you think labeling a player a stashaway player is a negative thing...all im stating is the guy was brought along in his rookie year rather than being thrown out into large minute....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (noballer07 @ Jul 12 2007, 03:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>and I'm still waiting on Antoine Wright on the Nets.</div>I watched a little of him when he was an Aggie. I can't really understand why he's a starter... I mean, I realize the Nets have two big salary guys, but I dunno. I couldn't really understand why people thought he was so good when he was here. It was kinda bitter-sweet when he left, because it was hard to tell how we were going to do without him (lol). I didn't think he was the cat's pajamas, though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jul 12 2007, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ersan Ilyasova for the Bucks.</div>Definitely this guy. I didn't think he was good at all, watched him a few times when the Bucks had injury problems and I thought he was a hell of a player and underrated.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BluffCityBlue @ Jul 13 2007, 01:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So you are saying that in his rookie season, the Boston Celtics didnt take him to develope him to fullfil his potential without playing him too much cause they didnt want to hinder his developement...they DID do that...and I stated that he progressed ALOT faster than the other players. I dont know why you think labeling a player a stashaway player is a negative thing...all im stating is the guy was brought along in his rookie year rather than being thrown out into large minute....</div>Oh, give me a break. What high schooler is seriously NBA-ready? Not everybody is LeBron or Dwight Howard. The point is that Jefferson was always a part of the rotation and kept earning more and more minutes. The fact that he played a key roll in the playoffs his rookie season should tell you something.Playing him too much to hinder his development? More like, we had veteran bigs and Al kept hurting his ankles. And I never said it was a bad thing to be brought along slowly, but I'm just trying to tell you that Al was never one of those guys that you are referring to.
Back in Detroit, Darko Milicic was a stash-away player from the day he was drafted to the day he was traded. He's still 22, but I don't expect him to become a star.
I dont think Martell was a "stash-away" player.. he played almost 20 minutes a game and started 18 games as a rookie..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jul 12 2007, 11:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How was he a key factor in the playoffs against Indiana? He played excellent basketball off the bench. Obviously he's not gonna start in the playoffs as a rookie behind Antoine Walker and Raef LaFrentz (who had a great season that year). So you're saying he wasn't a big factor just because he "only got 19 minutes per game?" Please... he had some huge games for us off the bench, especially in Game 1, and 19 minutes is a lot for a bench player in the playoffs (especially a rookie out of high school). Just because he didn't get starter's minutes doesn't mean he wasn't a key factor.</div>Yup, as an Indiana fan, I can tell you he was a pretty big factor against us in his rookie year during the playoffs, he was able to hold his own against JO, especailly defensively
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BluffCityBlue @ Jul 12 2007, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>These are players who were drafted outve highschool or out Europe who teams just put them on the end of the bench, and decided to put them away and develope them for the future. Do you think we're going to see these guys turn out to be good players...even stars?Examplesorrel WrightAndrew BynumLouis WilliamsTravis Outlaw(not really anymore)Al Jefferson(obviously a successful one)What other players are like these...and will the Wrights, Williams and Bynums become stars cause of their development by NBA teams?</div>I dont know about being a star but I think Dorrel Wright will become a very solid 15 PPG player very soon. With Kapono gone and Posey possibly leaving I can see Wright getting more minutes this year and play a big role coming off the bench. He already got a little more action last season with all the injuries and he had some great games. I think the coaching staff will continue to develop him this off-season so he can come up with those numbers consistantly off the bench this year and start as soon as next season possibly
