Politics Turning GA, NC, NV, and/or PA into victory (Biden vs Trump, 2020 election!)

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  1. CupWizier

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    LOCK HIM UP

    LOCK HIM UP

    LOCK HIM UP
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Yeah, you are really convincing me that it's all about policy for you.

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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    It seems that instead of pointing to something coherent and tangible, many GOPers are relegated to simply offering silly tweets and memes.

    ...so compelling.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    If you think these memes are to convince you, I underestimated your narcissism.

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    hmmm ,one side is able to do so without comment and the other isn't without ridicule.
    Typically compelling...
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    lol...evidently, the truth hurts.
     
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    Hmmm, evidently the truth is ignored. ;)
     
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    Trump leads that charge by example
     
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    Please welcome Elon Musk to the MAGA movement!
     
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    and his vote has exactly the same power as mine.

    No big deal.
     
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    whats worse? The fool? Or the person who complains about the fool by acting the same as the fool?
     
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    State polls suggest Biden has a clear national lead

    Poll of the week: A new Marquette Law School poll finds former Vice President Joe Biden with a 46% to 43% lead over President Donald Trump in Wisconsin.

    The poll matches the last poll from Marquette, which also had Biden up by 3 points in Wisconsin.

    What's the point: One of the big questions when we look at national polls is whether or not they're an accurate representation of what is going on at the state level. One of the easiest ways to check is to compare state poll results to the past presidential vote in a given state. I did so for all telephone polls that called cell phones since the beginning of April.

    When we average out these state polls, they suggest that Biden's running about 6 points ahead of Hillary Clinton's final margin.

    In other words, the state level polls suggest that Biden has a national lead of around 8 points.

    That's actually a little greater than the 6.6 points Biden has in the high quality national polling average taken during the same period. I should note that if we weight the average of state polls to each state's population, we get a margin just north of that 6.6 point mark. (Weighting by population leaves us somewhat more susceptible to outlier polls, as we have fewer polls from the most populated states.)

    Either way, all methods agree that Biden has a fairly sizable national advantage.

    Examining the state polls has the advantage of having a lot more data points to play with, so I feel fairly secure that they're giving us a decent snapshot. We're looking at more than 20 polls and more than 15,000 interviews. The aggregate margin of error is small.

    Additionally, we can look at states we expect to be at least somewhat competitive (i.e. those where the margin was within 10 points last time) and those that we don't think will be close in 2020.

    In the competitive states (where most of the state polling has been conducted), there has been an average swing of 6 points toward Biden compared to Clinton's 2016 result. The same is true in the non-competitive states.

    At least from this state level data, it does not seem that either candidate is running up the score disproportionately in areas that were already friendly to him.

    Biden has posted leads of greater than 5 points in places like Michigan and Pennsylvania. He is ahead in more than enough states to capture 270 electoral votes, if the election were held today.

    We can test our data, too, to see what would happen if the polls are underestimating Trump like they did in 2016.

    What I found was Biden would still be ahead, even with a 2016 sized mishap.

    The polls underestimated Trump by 1 point (RealClearPolitics) or 2 points (FiveThirtyEight) in the aggregate of the states we currently have polling from. Applying that 2016 bias to our current data, Biden would have a 6- to 7-point lead nationally.

    Concentrating on just the competitive states, the polls undersold Trump by 2 points (RealClearPolitics) or 3 points (FiveThirtyEight). If the polls in the competitive states were off by as much as they were at the end in 2016, Biden would still be ahead in states like Florida, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

    Of course, it may not be wise to expect a 2016-sized polling era in 2020. The polls in these states that had major statewide contests in 2018 were pretty much unbiased. No matter what set of states (all or just competitive) and which aggregate, the polls were not more favorable to Republicans than the final result.
    In a state like Wisconsin, the final 2018 Marquette poll nailed the final Senate margin and underestimated the Democratic candidate for governor's margin by 1 point.

    The bottom line is Biden's ahead right now nationally and in the competitive states. The good news for Trump is he has about six months to change the course of the campaign, which is more than enough time to do so.
     
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    The fool.

    The person wouldn't have anything to complain about if trump didn't act and speak like a fool.
     
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    I'm complaining about Trump...you just seem to be complaining about people having strong opinions....how about posting whatever the fuck you want and joining that conversation? It's an election...I've chosen....what's worse is the administration I'm railing against...how you have not sussed that out by now is beyond me. I'm not open minded about the Republican party anymore...that's a commitment I'll live with.
     
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    Therein lies the problem. Speaking out against a "politician" with facts still equals hate speech in the minds of their followers. And it doesn't matter which party we are talking about, both sides will jump your ass in order to lick their politicians ass.

    It's so freaking illogical it hurts. :lollipop:
     
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    you want me to join the conversation but then admit you are not open minded...

    lol.
    For your info Trump isnt the whole republican party, bit im sure that will not sink in to a Closed mind...

    no point in discussing. Your not discussing. You are ranting...

    with a self admitted closed mind. You post what you want and ill post what i want.
     
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    choices....I'm not straddling the fence this election...and I will...gloves off...I'm angry at the GOP and Trump and that decision is made. Just talk about the candidtes please and leave the forum members out of the complaint then....it's a theme that is really going nowhere....the hypocrisy hunt …..fuck all that. I don't need to be objective about Trump...knock yourself out...he cried wolf way too many times to have any semblance of reasonable doubt
     
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