Religion From the Rector at the St John's Episcopal Church in Washington DC

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  1. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    I have, and he's a wonderful orator.
     
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    yet the passage from romans was used in the defense of slavery, in the roman democratic republic
     
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    I'm reluctant. In my experience you will not engage in a good faith discussion...

    I mean, @lawai'a is good-booking you down the block like a bully and you just dig your heels in deeper or switch the subject.
     
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    stable marriage, good kids, hey...isn't that your thing?
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    What are you attempting to say here?
     
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    American churches slavery defense included from the Apostle Paul’s Epistle to the Ephesians, VI, 5-7: “Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Hmmmm....OK.
     
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    ehizzy3 RIP mgb

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    bat shit crazy stuff
     
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    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Good kids??? Good Kids??? They’re conmen, scam artists and grifters, just like the man who whelped them. My God, do you not have any kind of awareness at all??? The best part of those “kids” ran down their daddy’s leg....and we’re going to Be paying the price long after Father Moron is left this earth.....
     
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    isn't that what you praised Trump for....stable marriage (3rd one 25 sexual harrassment lawsuits) great kids (highly debateable) …..yet when you mention Obama it's....."all he ever talked about was ISIS"...no mention of ...great dad...good husband...church going dude....double standard anyone?
     
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    Obama has no place in this thread. Bringing him up is classic ODS
     
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    What does that have to do with Romans 13?
     
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    Anwering questions with questions is an old saleman's trick....did you sell encyclopedias or Amway?
     
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    as you admit, yours isn't the true interpretation but one that defends your point of view. there are others that would dispute it as authoritative. here is another. if the law/authaurity is morally unjust there is no obligation to follow that authority.
    [13:17] Paul must come to grips with the problem raised by a message that declares people free from the law. How are they to relate to Roman authority? The problem was exacerbated by the fact that imperial protocol was interwoven with devotion to various deities. Paul builds on the traditional instruction exhibited in Wis 6:13, according to which kings and magistrates rule by consent of God. From this perspective, then, believers who render obedience to the governing authorities are obeying the one who is highest in command. At the same time, it is recognized that Caesar has the responsibility to make just ordinances and to commend uprightness; cf. Wis 6:421. That Caesar is not entitled to obedience when such obedience would nullify God’s prior claim to the believers’ moral decision becomes clear in the light of the following verses.
     
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    Try putting yourself in a place where you could view Trump's kids as good kids without laughing. It is actually impossible, and yet, @ABM can somehow occupy that space. (Perhaps he is the religious arm of @MARIS61, trolling us all...)
     
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    ABM has repeatedly made it clear that his top priority is forced pregnancy and any misconduct, 105,000 dead Americans and counting, 30 million unemployed, 18,000 lies are all OK if he can force his will on women's bodies.

    Another black person killed by cops? Who cares? Well, some of us but not Trumpers.
     
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    Talk about conflation
     
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    In the light of calling Trump having moral issues, I think he's done not so bad since in office.
     

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