Come on man, he's fine. He brings a different viewpoint. One you may not agree with but one that is necessary. It would be very very boring in the OT section if everyone agreed. Calling him intolerable is a personal insult. And most importantly, this is a Blazer forum and he is one of the biggest Blazer fans around. So no matter what you two have that in common.
TBF, I almost always love your take on a subject. It’s obvious you give your responses based on a good deal of thought and reflection. And I for one appreciate it. But your scrotum has to ache sometimes from trying to straddle the fence on so many issues. As my dearly missed mother taught me from a young age, there’s two sides to every story. I’m just not so sure there’s really an honest answer on the other side of this story...............
Nah my scrotum aches because I had a vasectomy a week and a half ago. I'm not really sure what you're getting at here though. I am saying that protests are good, and that yeah a change of heart is needed, but that likely won't come and if it does it won't be for a long time. So providing systems that give justice to all is the place to start. I'm not sure how that is riding the fence.
Okay, maybe it’s because you always try to be so reasonable and mellow. That’s makes you a unicorn in the OT (and even Blazers) section......It’s like swinging at a change up. Do you even have an inner dickhead???? (Aside from the one you might show your wife and kids I meant)....if not you’re the only one of us who doesn’t.....
lol. I have no idea how to respond to this. I try to look at and understand different perspectives while making my opinions on things. Just because I can understand how someone got to their opinion doesn't mean I agree with it. It just means I have tried to put myself in their shoes and usually I'd say it helps me to not be angry or upset for them having the opinion they have. I usually state my opinions, while at the same time acknowledging that I understand why they may think differently, not because I'm trying to straddle the fence of what I believe, but because IMO it puts both me and the other party involved in a place where we can talk about our differences in a constructive manner. Of course, some people hold beliefs that I either just 100% disagree with or, or I simply can't wrap my head around it, but I still make an attempt to see things outside of just my own perspective. I know that has a tendency to make it sound like I'm riding the fence, but I certainly have opinions and some are very strong, and stubborn ones. There are also just many things in life, that I frankly don't have all the answers for or even relatively close, what exactly is the point in having a strong opinion on something that I have a very limited scope on. If those things come up, I tend to think my job is to ask questions not to get super opinionated. Sometimes I ask the wrong questions though. Anyways that's my counseling session for the day. Do I pay you on Paypal? lol
This thread has morphed into so many directions, it's very difficult to stay on point - especially, since it's, evidently, me against the collective masses. No, racism in the context of bigotry is one thing...and a matter of the heart...and more of what I've been alluding to in the thread. Police brutality (while at its essence may be a matter of the heart, as well) is criminal, plain and simple, and needs to be dealt with as such. Obama had to deal with similar. I believe he made some strides, but not certain. At any rate, here are a couple of pieces I found on the matter... https://www.nfg.org/news/breaking-f...-obama-demand-end-police-brutality-nationwide https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ama-us-racism-police-brutality-failed-victims
I've got a close Right wing friend who lives there and drives a pickup truck but he would never do that and that photo is not of him. He saved my life one time when I was gonna drown in the Coos River. That was about 45 years ago. Nicest guy I've ever known and I know only really nice people. Take Sly for instance. No, seriously, take Sly somewhere. Just a note here for those who can't deduce anything. I would never say these things about Sly if I didn't have the highest respect for him. Okay, we've got that behind us and can now feel free to resume Sly bashing.
The Chicago Bears' Allen Robinson had some interesting words: https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-players-start-kneeling-again-003354538.html .....Robinson raised the question that, perhaps unsurprisingly enough, was echoed by the other Bears players who talked with media on Wednesday afternoon. It's undeniably true that embracing peaceful protests is still something that NFL subculture struggles mightily with, but what comes next isn't as clear. Do more players take a knee this fall? How will the NFL react? Is taking a knee still the most practical form of protest? These are but a few of the tough issues lying squarely on the player's shoulders. "I haven't thought about it, I really haven't considered it," Hicks said. "Do I see it being a possibility? It could be, it could be. I guess in my mind, I want another step. I want to see something bigger, different. That already turned out negatively, and we understood what he meant by it. I will say this: let's make the situation better. I'll choose change over having to take another knee. I'd rather we just move on."...
I've always known the good in you, ABM and nobody has to remind me of that. That doesn't mean I have to agree with your politics so long as I know your root values.
, Read your post and then try to remember that Obama became the first black president in American history....then question whether or not he made strides for black people? Dude...…...
He sure was. And he had his own set of problems and setbacks as it related to improving race relations.
He's still active in race relations and as grass roots as you can get....he had no support across the aisle by the way, if you're wondering...the GOP held him back from nominating Supreme Court judges the last year of his presidency so Trump could stack the courts....he didn't have bipartisan cooperation at all for 8 years...Joe was the guy who worked across the aisle the most in that cabinet..but Joe is a white guy, right? Nobody questioning his birth certificate as I remember...
That's good, ABM but some people have to be dragged kicking and screaming into treating minorities even a tiny bit more decently.
Who are you referring to? I've tried to find the trail of posts on this subject and have trouble going far enough back to figure it out.
"It just means I have tried to put myself in their shoes and usually I'd say it helps me to not be angry or upset for them having the opinion they have. I usually state my opinions, while at the same time acknowledging that I understand why they may think differently, not because I'm trying to straddle the fence of what I believe, but because IMO it puts both me and the other party involved in a place where we can talk about our differences in a constructive manner. " Powerful and how more people should approach communication with regards to all subjects for dsicussion.
