Dont ban Kobetmacyao01. but you do need to chill out. I honestly think he just wants a debate but he's going about it in the wrong way.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 14 2007, 02:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dont ban Kobetmacyao01. but you do need to chill out. I honestly think he just wants a debate but he's going about it in the wrong way.</div>thank you smart one. I'll chill.but by the time nitro comes here.everybody is gonna be RED HOT MAD AT ME haha
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 14 2007, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dont ban Kobetmacyao01. but you do need to chill out. I honestly think he just wants a debate but he's going about it in the wrong way.</div>Only time I ever see him post is harrasing Nitro about T-mac being a point forward. He's made 5+ threads about it.
I'll start talking smart bball when nitro gets some bball intelligence.and when most people around here do as well sorry.
This dude has made almost 10 threads about this beat up topic...he acts like its a contest or something..
Tracy mcgrady is a point forward. I consider any forward that puts up 6+ assists per game a point forward. He is more of a scorer who passes in alot of ways, but you still have to call him a point-forward to an extent even though he's not pass-first like Magic was.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 14 2007, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'll start talking smart bball when nitro gets some bball intelligence.and when most people around here do as well sorry.</div>If you claim that everyone on this forum lacks bball intelligence then post at another forum. Also, you're admitting yourself that you're not making good posts, all you're doing is harassing Nitro. You've become obsessed with these T-mac point forward situation. Everyone says that he's a point forward other than you, what makes you think that you're the one who's right.
http://www.bballworld.us/forum/index.php?s...15&start=15If you wanna debate it go here kobetmacyao. Read the posts by Chronz
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 14 2007, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Tracy mcgrady is a point forward. I consider any forward that puts up 6+ assists per game a point forward. He is more of a scorer who passes in alot of ways, but you still have to call him a point-forward to an extent even though he's not pass-first like Magic was.</div>finally some bball talk.well, averaging 6+ assists and being a forward means that hes a good passer and playmaker really not a point forward. you mind as well consider larry bird one too then even though he isn't http://www.nba.com/history/players/bird_stats.html.A point forward, basically speaking, is a forward who brings the ball up and is the primary ball handler for a team that already has two distinct guards on the floor. There really haven't been that many, with Paul Pressey really being the first. Others were Pippen and Hill. James is really the only one today, although Odom and Diaw have been able to play it in a pinch (it was attempted to put Walker there, but his decision making was never really the best).from 1st page.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Jul 14 2007, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>http://www.bballworld.us/forum/index.php?s...15&start=15If you wanna debate it go here kobetmacyao. Read the posts by Chronz</div>and whos talking to you.
And he's the one setting up the plays most of the time. And btw, why are you making these threads so many times? Every thread, I've seen someone saying that TMac IS a point forward. You just make a lot of threads like this so you can wait for someone else to say that he isn't then you can rant on about how we're stupid and how you were right, It's quite obvious now. We have discussed it with you many times, you just don't accept it, and that's the reason why I don't care anymore and stopped discussing it with you, and I'm pretty sure that's Nitro's reason also.
chronz is as big as an idiot as nitro.Nitro I want to own due to him somehow manging to be the best poster here which is laughable.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dsounG @ Jul 14 2007, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And he's the one setting up the plays most of the time. And btw, why are you making these threads so many times? Every thread, I've seen someone saying that TMac IS a point forward. You just make a lot of threads like this so you can wait for someone else to say that he isn't then you can rant on about how we're stupid and how you were right, It's quite obvious now. We have discussed it with you many times, you just don't accept it, and that's the reason why I don't care anymore and stopped discussing it with you, and I'm pretty sure that's Nitro's reason also.</div>being the playmaker and being a forward has nothing to do with it.Josh Howard is also setting up plays same goes for Paul Pierce. T-mac's not even the primary ball-handler on his team.Rafer and Head are.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 14 2007, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>finally some bball talk.well, averaging 6+ assists and being a forward means that hes a good passer and playmaker really not a point forward. you mind as well consider larry bird one too then even though he isn't http://www.nba.com/history/players/bird_stats.html.A point forward, basically speaking, is a forward who brings the ball up and is the primary ball handler for a team that already has two distinct guards on the floor. There really haven't been that many, with Paul Pressey really being the first. Others were Pippen and Hill. James is really the only one today, although Odom and Diaw have been able to play it in a pinch (it was attempted to put Walker there, but his decision making was never really the best).from 1st page.and whos talking to you. </div>Hey smart one, you said you wanted to debate it so I'm showing you the link where some dude is actually trying to debate it with you.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 14 2007, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>finally some bball talk.well, averaging 6+ assists and being a forward means that hes a good passer and playmaker really not a point forward. you mind as well consider larry bird one too then even though he isn't http://www.nba.com/history/players/bird_stats.html.A point forward, basically speaking, is a forward who brings the ball up and is the primary ball handler for a team that already has two distinct guards on the floor. There really haven't been that many, with Paul Pressey really being the first. Others were Pippen and Hill. James is really the only one today, although Odom and Diaw have been able to play it in a pinch (it was attempted to put Walker there, but his decision making was never really the best).from 1st page.and whos talking to you. </div>But dude, if you even watched Rocket games, you would see TMac bringing up the ball most of the time. He's the one who runs the plays and such. I'll try to find some games for you to see.And just go look at the stats Chronz posted in that thread.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 14 2007, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>finally some bball talk.well, averaging 6+ assists and being a forward means that hes a good passer and playmaker really not a point forward. you mind as well consider larry bird one too then even though he isn't http://www.nba.com/history/players/bird_stats.html.A point forward, basically speaking, is a forward who brings the ball up and is the primary ball handler for a team that already has two distinct guards on the floor. There really haven't been that many, with Paul Pressey really being the first. Others were Pippen and Hill. James is really the only one today, although Odom and Diaw have been able to play it in a pinch (it was attempted to put Walker there, but his decision making was never really the best).from 1st page.and whos talking to you. </div>Tmac with the rockets is the primary ball-handler and with guards like Alston and Battier last year he was the main passer and playmaker on that team. Tmac is a point-forward, maybe not the most traditional example like Pip or hill as you mentioned but he is still one. Being a good playmaker and a forward = point forward.
umm.. bringing the ball up.yeah rafer does it more stupid sh*t.wow get some knowledge please or turn off your computer and go outside.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 14 2007, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Tmac with the rockets is the primary ball-handler and with guards like Alston and Battier last year he was the main passer and playmaker on that team. Tmac is a point-forward, maybe not the most traditional example like Pip or hill as you mentioned but he is still one. Being a good playmaker and a forward = point forward. </div>count larry bird and josh howard one too.lol, hes not the primary ball-handler.Kobe is and Odom is for the Lakers.Rafer = Primary ball-handler he handles the rock and brings the ball up more.
Also count this part as well.T-Mac was a guard in his whole career that doesn't make him a combo guard either.dsounG you failed to make your argument.primetime I see what your thinking but that doesn't mean that much.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 14 2007, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>umm.. bringing the ball up.yeah rafer does it more stupid sh*t.wow get some knowledge please or turn off your computer and go outside.count larry bird and josh howard one too.lol, hes not the primary ball-handler.Kobe is and Odom is for the Lakers.Rafer = Primary ball-handler he handles the rock and brings the ball up more.</div>Rafer alston is their pg but Tmac has the ball in his hands much more as he is the superstar. Also Tmac has 6 assists per game compared to alstons 5 assists per game.Larry Bird is a point-forward, which is one of many things he was. Larry Bird did everything on the basketball court.No I dont consider Josh Howard a point-forward as he doesn't even average 3 apg.
you guys are getting confused.the main thing you guys aren't distinguishing very well is that, there's a difference between running the offense with a player and running the offense through a player. You're right though, the Rockets run their offense through McGrady, but he doesn't necessarily run the offense. Kind of like the Celtics ran their offense through Bird, but Johnson, Ainge, Archibald, and a few other guys ran the offense.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 14 2007, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>chronz is as big as an idiot as nitro.Nitro I want to own due to him somehow manging to be the best poster here which is laughable.being the playmaker and being a forward has nothing to do with it.Josh Howard is also setting up plays same goes for Paul Pierce. T-mac's not even the primary ball-handler on his team.Rafer and Head are.</div>Hey if Chronz is such an idiot why don't you go "own" him like you say you can. Chronz is atleast giving you a good arguement, so if you can really prove him wrong so easily go do it instead of just saying he's an idiot. Your not proving anything this way. Your just making it look like you can't win the debate with Chronz.
