wow, dude I'm really tired of this.assists mean playmaking abilities.That just shows T-Mac is a better playmaker.factthe main thing you guys aren't distinguishing very well is that, there's a difference between running the offense with a player and running the offense through a player. You're right though, the Rockets run their offense through McGrady, but he doesn't necessarily run the offense. Kind of like the Celtics ran their offense through Bird, but Johnson, Ainge, Archibald, and a few other guys ran the offense.this is a factfor the 100th time.honestly if you don't believe those are facts.then anything is a fact.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 14 2007, 02:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>wow, dude I'm really tired of this.assists mean playmaking abilities.That just shows T-Mac is a better playmaker.factthe main thing you guys aren't distinguishing very well is that, there's a difference between running the offense with a player and running the offense through a player. You're right though, the Rockets run their offense through McGrady, but he doesn't necessarily run the offense. Kind of like the Celtics ran their offense through Bird, but Johnson, Ainge, Archibald, and a few other guys ran the offense.this is a factfor the 100th time.honestly if you don't believe those are facts.then anything is a fact.</div>That's not a fact...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 14 2007, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>wow, dude I'm really tired of this.assists mean playmaking abilities.That just shows T-Mac is a better playmaker.factthe main thing you guys aren't distinguishing very well is that, there's a difference between running the offense with a player and running the offense through a player. You're right though, the Rockets run their offense through McGrady, but he doesn't necessarily run the offense. Kind of like the Celtics ran their offense through Bird, but Johnson, Ainge, Archibald, and a few other guys ran the offense.this is a factfor the 100th time.honestly if you don't believe those are facts.then anything is a fact.</div>All the players of the 80s celtics contributed to the offense,that doesn't make bird not a point-forward that just speaks to the team aspect of the game. A point-forward is a guy who from the forward is the main focus of making plays for his team. that describes tmac for the 1000th time.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Jul 14 2007, 04:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's not a fact...</div>what is it then?a metaphor:HAHAHA:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 14 2007, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>All the players of the 80s celtics contributed to the offense,that doesn't make bird not a point-forward that just speaks to the team aspect of the game. A point-forward is a guy who from the forward is the main focus of making plays for his team. that describes tmac for the 1000th time.</div>that is totally wrong dude.wow..I thought you were done but at this moment I'm done with you.anymore facts you want me to provide?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 14 2007, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>another fact is T-Mac isn't the primary ball-handler.</div>Stat ON Court OFF Court NetMinutes 2539 1431 63%Offense: Pts per 100 Poss. 110.0 102.8 +7.2Defense: Pts per 100 Poss. 101.9 101.2 +0.7Net Points per 100 Possessions +8.1 +1.6 +6.5Points Scored 5259 2695 +2564Points Allowed 4857 2700 +2157Net Points +402 -5 +407Effective FG% 51.0% 48.0% +3.0%Effective FG% Allowed 46.5% 46.8% -0.4%Assisted Field Goals 60% 55% +5%Assisted FG% Allowed 55% 58% -3%Own Shots Blocked 4% 6% -2%Shots Blocked 5% 4% +1%ReboundingOffensive Rebounding 27.5% 27.8% -0.3%Defensive Rebounding 73.8% 73.3% +0.4%Total Rebounding 50.6% 50.6% +0.0%StatsFree Throws Made 17 17 +0Free Throws Attempted 23 22 +1Free Throws Made by Opp. 18 17 -1Free Throws Attempted by Opp. 24 23 -1Turnovers, on Offense 13 15 +2Turnovers, on Defense 13 14 -1Net Turnovers 0 -1 -1Fouls Committed 20 21 +1Fouls, Drawn 19 20 -1Net Fouls -1 -1 +082 games.com shows he is apart of 60% of assisted field goals for the rockets. if thats not a point-forward then what is?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 14 2007, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>what is it then?a metaphor:HAHAHA:that is totally wrong dude.wow..I thought you were done but at this moment I'm done with you.anymore facts you want me to provide?</div>This is what I sai earlier<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah dude you don't seem to understand what a fact is. All that paragraph says is that you don't think T-Mac runs the Rockets offense. That's called an opinion. Your not giving any actual facts to support that opinion.</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 14 2007, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>wow, dude I'm really tired of this.assists mean playmaking abilities.That just shows T-Mac is a better playmaker.factthe main thing you guys aren't distinguishing very well is that, there's a difference between running the offense with a player and running the offense through a player. You're right though, the Rockets run their offense through McGrady, but he doesn't necessarily run the offense. Kind of like the Celtics ran their offense through Bird, but Johnson, Ainge, Archibald, and a few other guys ran the offense.this is a factfor the 100th time.honestly if you don't believe those are facts.then anything is a fact.</div>That is not a fact, You haven't done anything to prove that.TMac is the primary ball-handler. Like I said, due to JVG's system and how good of a playmaker TMac is, and how good he create plays for his teammates AND himself just puts him over Alston.If I had to choose who would be my primary ball-handler, it would be TMac in a heartbeat. Based on the reasons I have just said.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 14 2007, 05:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>what is it then?a metaphor:HAHAHA:that is totally wrong dude.wow..I thought you were done but at this moment I'm done with you.anymore facts you want me to provide?</div>Yet your making no arguement besides saying im wrong.
how is that an opinionsome of you idiots need to watch a Larry Bird game then and a 80s celtics game.Also some of you need to actually watch the rockets play.
Rafer is the primary ball-handlerhe brings the ball up all the time.and he has the rock in his hand as well.You might choose it but is that a fact no.T-Mac can do some roles a point forward can do but is not a natural point forward. Same goes for Josh Howard and Paul Pierce and Larry Bird.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 14 2007, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>how is that an opinionsome of you idiots need to watch a Larry Bird game then and a 80s celtics game.Also some of you need to actually watch the rockets play.</div> at you thinking you've watched more larry bird then I have. I grew up in the post-bird era where bird games were shown as often as they show repeats of the three-peat lakers today. I can recall almost every playoff series he had against the bulls,pistons,lakers,and rockets of the 80s by memory.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 14 2007, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>how is that an opinionsome of you idiots need to watch a Larry Bird game then and a 80s celtics game.Also some of you need to actually watch the rockets play.</div>By saying that, you're saying the 2006-2007 Houston Rockets system was run like the 80's Celtics? Hell no.And I think you need to watch the Rockets play yourself because you don't realize that McGrady is in fact the primary ball handler. For the 5th time, because he's a better playmaker, better at creating plays, better at involving his teammates, better at running the offense.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 14 2007, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Rafer is the primary ball-handlerhe brings the ball up all the time.and he has the rock in his hand as well.You might choose it but is that a fact no.T-Mac can do some roles a point forward can do but is not a natural point forward. Same goes for Josh Howard and Paul Pierce and Larry Bird.</div>But the offense J-Ho, Pierce and Bird were put in is way different then the JVG's system.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 14 2007, 04:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>and for the 6th time Alston is the primary ball-handler.</div>What have you done to prove that? I have provided videos to show that TMac is in fact the primary handler. I can bring up more videos if you want.
actually no they aren't.T-Mac isn't the primary ball-handler Alston is.Alston brings the ball up much more then McGrady that is enough proof.I AM DONE AND I HAVE WON.
if I haven't give any facts nobody else has either. Its been an opinion nation then.I've been the fact giver.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 14 2007, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>actually no they aren't.T-Mac isn't the primary ball-handler Alston is.Alston brings the ball up much more then McGrady that is enough proof.I AM DONE AND I HAVE WON.</div>Again with the stubborness. That is not proof at all. Provide me with atleast 3 games that Rafer has primarily handled the ball with his hands the MAJORITY of the game WITH TMac playing. I assure you, you won't find many.
You need to learn the difference between a statement and a fact. Your just making statements right now. If you can actually provide some proof that your statements are correct then they can be considered facts.
