Ron Artest And Stephen Jackson Each Suspended 7 Games To Start Regular Season

Just wow. Allright then, you win.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 15 2007, 03:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Do you know anything about ron artests wife though? its hypocritical to say anything to me about how im out of touch when you dont know what your talking about.</div> Do you know Ron Artest's wife? No.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mobruler @ Jul 15 2007, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Primtetime, you are so far out of touch with reality it's not even funny.Pestilence, I agree that Jason Kidd should of been suspended as well. I don't really care what race the player is. I said Jackson and Artest got what they deserved and should have gotten more. I didn't say Jackson and Artest got what they deserved and should have gotten more because they're black.</div>Punishing somebody twice for the same crime is double jeapoardy. Now when it's an employer's punishment it's not going against the letter of the law, but not the spirit of the law. When you selectively break the law, letter or intention, in some cases and not others, then you should not be in charge of doling out punishments.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jul 15 2007, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Do you know Ron Artest's wife? No.</div>I dont know her personally but shes been in the spotlight enough with filing false police reports that I know what kind of women she is.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tHe_pEsTiLeNcE @ Jul 15 2007, 01:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>are you joking? Stephen Jackson could have been injured or died if he hadn't fired his gun up in the air. There was a guy driving a truck at him. It's a pretty narrow-minded point of view to punish a guy that severely for something that was barely illegal. None of you will admit it, but if Mike Dunleavy had done the same thing you'd all be running to his defense.There is absolutely no precedent for doing this to them, and it's just disgraceful how the NBA continues to give these players so many unwarranted suspensions.</div>I don't really understand what your point is about Stephen Jackson. If he was really in danger of getting badly injured or killed, then perhaps he shouldn't have mouthed off or whatever he did to incite a riot. People always play innocent and say, "Come on man I wudn't doin nutin!" but you know he was being a jackass in some way. Bringing up Dunleavy is pretty pointless. I don't know Dunleavy, but he doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would get into that situation.As for the Kidd/Artest comparison, I don't really know why they chose to do it that way. All I know is that they gave Artest and Jackson suspensions for repeated legal troubles.The other thing I don't get about what you're saying is why you think this is an NBA thing. The NFL has been doing this recently, as well. Double jeopardy is a legal term; it has nothing to do with incurring fines or suspensions at your job (I'm sure you know that, but I'm saying that it really doesn't have the relation you seem to be making).

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mobruler @ Jul 15 2007, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Somehow, I never get myself into a situation where some dude is driving a truck at me and I have to shoot my gun all over to get him to stop. Weird.It's disgraceful that Ron Artest is suspended for beating his wife?</div> Your not a black successful millionaire either at a night club. These guys are targeted every time they go out, jealousy is just so crazy in this world and that's when the trouble starts. I don't think Jackson is a thug, if you ask his teammates everyone has nothing but good things to say about him and I think he really is trying to clean up his imagine and has been pretty much perfect except for this incident. The man had to defend himself, I would have done the same thing if I was in that position probably.

 

Funny how Stephon Jackson is always in these bad situations and most other NBA players aren't.

 

BrawlThis situation What other off the court incident has he been in?

 

Stephen Jackson could be the biggest idiot of the f*cking century. He was just getting his rep back as a non-criminal, he deserves everything he got. I really hate uptight b*tches, so I agree with PrimeTime, B*tches dont do that and get away with that.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DTP @ Jul 15 2007, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>BrawlThis situation What other off the court incident has he been in?</div>Does he really need more? I'm sure some research would dig more stuff up.

 

Well it's looking like Artest and Jackson may not be in fact suspended.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>July 15, 2007 - 7:13 pm ESPN - The NBA players association is considering an appeal of the seven-game suspensions given to Ron Artest and Stephen Jackson for legal issues. Both players were suspended by the league Saturday without pay and are scheduled to miss the first seven games of next season. Artest would lose a little more than $470,000 in salary, about $50,000 more than Jackson. Jackson released a statement through the Golden State Warriors saying he accepted his suspension. But the union, comparing the penalties to other recent suspensions given to players for off-the-court reasons, may take action.</div>http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/471...on_suspensions/It's nice to see the players union standing up against David Stern in this matter. It does seem ridiculous that Jason Kidd didn't get 1 game of suspension while Jackson/Artest get 7. Also, I was confused as to why these suspensions were so late. The Artest situation was in early March while Jackson's was when he was on Indiana I believe.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mobruler @ Jul 15 2007, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Does he really need more? I'm sure some research would dig more stuff up.</div> When your on team especially a basketball team your teammates are like your brothers pretty much, especially on the road. So, when he saw Artest go in there because someone had thrown a beer on him that was his natural reaction, to go in there and help defend his teammate. Not saying it was wrong but that's just it, we're all humans and some of us would have done the same thing. I'm not saying I would have charged in there throwing blows at any and everyone but I sure hell would have went in there to defend my teammate so I don't really blame him. And then the night club thing like I said, people are so jealous these days and when your black, have money, nice clothes and all that people target you. I'm sure I don't get it as much as professional athletes but same thing happens to me and few of my family members, that's just how it is. He did what he felt he had to do to protect himself and I see no problem with that. I wasn't there so don't know exactly what happened but I see it as him defending himself.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Mainstream media outlets generally portray Jackson in a negative way, highlighting the fact that, in only the past three years, he has been charged with felony criminal recklessness and a number of other misdemeanors, including assault, disorderly conduct, and two counts of battery.</div>linkYeah, poor Stephen Jackson. I feel so bad for him that he had other people make him be reckless, commit assault and battery, and be disorderly. I feel so bad for rich black people. They have it so hard.The truth is that most rich black NBA players have little or no legal trouble. It's because they keep their noses clean. They know to stay out of bad bars/clubs and hire people that will help them if there is a fight or whatever. It's not about being black and rich, it's about being an idiot or being a normal citizen. Shaq is rich and black. Has he had legal troubles? MJ? Dwyane Wade? LeBron? The list goes on and on. I don't get what people like you are thinking. "Oh yeah, poor Stephen Jackson... I can just imagine it now. Someone saw Stephen Jackson and got really jealous and hit him with a car."

 

I'm glad these players got what they deserved. I wish Stephen Jackson was forced to pay like 50 million to the Pacers for all the damgages he's done. I know I'm biased, but Stephen Jackson is the worst idiotic player I've ever seen. I'm not as mad at Artest because I know where he's from, I understand him, and I realize that he probably has some kind of mental disorder or something

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Jackson released a statement through the Golden State Warriors saying he accepted his suspension. But the union, comparing the penalties to other recent suspensions given to players for off-the-court reasons, may take action."Based on prior precedent, we think the suspensions are excessive," union director Billy Hunter said Sunday in a statement. "We plan to confer with the players and their representatives to consider all of our options for appeal."Hunter, Artest, and Artest's agent, Mark Stevens, are in Africa taking part in the union's "Feeding One Million" campaign, helping distribute 11 million pounds of rice in Kenya.Stevens released a statement later Sunday saying: "Ron Artest's seven-game suspension is overly excessive. But in spite of this, Ron is relieved to have this ordeal behind him and is actively working on strengthening his family. We trust that he will be granted the privacy needed to do this in an effective manner.</div>So in other words, it sounds like they'll at most be going for a reduction. At least Jackson is somewhat accepting and intelligent about what he does. I think Nelson is a good influence.

 

Dang it, I wish I were in Kenya right now, I might've been able to see Artest. He should've come a month earlier!

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jul 19 2007, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wish Stephen Jackson was forced to pay like 50 million to the Pacers for all the damgages he's done.</div> :HAHAHA: <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I know I'm biased, but Stephen Jackson is the worst idiotic player I've ever seen. I'm not as mad at Artest because I know where he's from, I understand him, and I realize that he probably has some kind of mental disorder or something</div>No one else caught that? I guess PFF is really in touch with his mental disorder side...

 

I love that PFF adores Ron Artest, who single handedly ruined his franchise, but despises Jackson, who has never really done anything directly to hurt the Pacers except getting suspended.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tHe_pEsTiLeNcE @ Jul 22 2007, 01:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I love that PFF adores Ron Artest, who single handedly ruined his franchise, but despises Jackson, who has never really done anything directly to hurt the Pacers except getting suspended.</div>Not long ago, PFF would always complain about how Ron Artest ruined the Pacers, blah blah. This is one reason I think he is a troller. Either that or he has a horrible memory.