OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. noknobs

    noknobs Well-Known Member

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    I mean this is like the Twilight Zone. It takes a gigantic pair of balls to come out and say this right now. We just hit a record for most cases in a day for fucks sake.

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    Vice President Mike Pence asserted Friday that “all 50 states and territories across this country are opening up safely and responsibly” even as cases surge in many states, and eight states across the country have paused their reopening efforts.

    One state, Texas, has even scaled back their reopening plan, closing bars after they had been a part of the states reopening plan.

    Pence said at the White House coronavirus task force briefing Friday that the country has “made truly remarkable progress in moving our nation forward” and that “we've all seen the encouraging news as we open up America again.”

    His remarks come as 32 states across the country have seen an increase in cases over the past week, according to data from John Hopkins University.

    Pence also discussed the return of jobs that came with reopening America, and said that some of the original coronavirus hotspots such as the New York metro area and New Orleans have made “extraordinary progress.”

    He said the task force is focusing on 16 states that have been most impacted by coronavirus in recent weeks with both rising cases and rising positivity rates.

    Pence also repeated the President's refrain that more testing has led to more cases, however the rise in new cases has outpaced the increase in coronavirus testing.

    “To one extent or another, the volume of new cases coming in is a reflection of a great success in expanding testing across the country,” Pence said.

    Pence said that while the US has made progress, the country “still has work to do.”
     
  2. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    You quoted the governor of Texas.

    The hospitals themselves are struggling.

    Just because you designate a room ICU doesn't mean the patient in it is receiving an ICU standard of care.

    The amount of personnel required for an ICU patient is considerably higher.

    That's why it's called Intensive Care.

    Hospitals in Texas are putting out the call for additional medical personnel outside of the state.

    They're having trouble finding that personnel.

    Interviewing, background and license checks, and hiring takes time.

    Also you're putting new employees in an overworked and overtaxed medical situation.

    While sure, it's great that more hospital beds are being labeled ICU, there is no guarantee the patients are receiving the ICU level of care they desperately need.
     
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    There were protests in Houston smart guy.
     
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    Define prepared? trump said we were prepared before and look how that worked out. Listen to the doctors, listen to the scientists, don't listen to trump and this administration.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    You said that the curve had been flattened and hospitals aren't being overtaxed, so it's time to open everything up. Meanwhile, things are becoming so critical in places like Texas and Florida that they're considering locking things down again.
     
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    Guess which city this was:[​IMG]
     
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    La Pine?
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    "I can't breathe" has been a BLM motto ever since Eric Garner died in a police chokehold. It strains incredulity that it wasn't a direct reference to something that's been used so often by what that councilman almost surely sees as the opposite side.
     
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    A lot of people are saying "I can't breathe" with these masks on. My coworker said it casually yesterday.

    Obviously, they are using those words since BLM is too.

    But who gives a shit about them using the phrase, its pointless to fight over. Many people have problems breathing wearing these face coverings and masks.
     
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    Damnit, good guess.
     
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    Your co-worker casually said they were choking to death? Relatable.

    Anyway, there's a bit of a difference between casual conversation and a politician doing a publicity stunt. One of the two is far more likely to be mocking political opponents.
     
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    what are you talking about?

    just to review, in response to somebody talking about hospitals nearing capacity and being in trouble, you said:

    "Cases have increased quite a bit in the last few days if you haven’t noticed."

    and I responded that the increase in cases was easily predicted...and had been predicted for weeks. There was not one bit of surprise to these spikes in many parts of the country; except for maybe the surprise to those willfully ignorant of consequences

    I'm sure protests may have contributed to those spikes, although evidence for that is slim. But the main contributor has been relaxing stay-at-home and social distancing orders while re-opening way too many businesses. The spikes are due to ignorance, arrogance, deceit, and blindly stupid political defiance
     
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    @tlongII didn't quote Trump. He quoted the Governor of Texas. Your Trump statements are irrelevant. Sorry. Not sure if you caught that or not.
     
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    No, she said literally "I can't breathe" and then pulled the mask down under her nose.
     
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    What soul?
     
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    Nearly every single person there is wearing masks.
     
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    So we can ignore social distancing if we wear masks?
     
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    No, but if people are wearing masks are you more likely or less likely to be infected if social distancing is ignored?
     
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    I would think less likely.

    Those that supported the protests, probably think otherwise. Unless they can admit that these protests increased the likelihood of spreading coronavirus.

    I mean, if protests were ok, then having a graduation or a funeral or event outside should be fine. Large public gatherings, as long as you wear masks, should be fine. If it doesn't cause a spike in cases or is tolerable, they
     
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