OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. andalusian

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  2. ABM

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    I doubt you watched the video, but if that doctor's stats are true, then I think it's a compelling message.
     
  3. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I wonder if you noticed my comment wasn't about the content of the video.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Yeah, so?
     
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    Umm, is something broken?
     
  6. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Obviously I wanted to pad my post count. (I shall go delete the 300 posts that were duplicated)
     
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    It looked like you were posting as if you were your avatar.
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  8. illmatic99

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    Natural selection. But wait, you probably don't believe in evolution either.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    As previously mentioned, not everyone is touting the wearing of masks.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/PbZTlxaEb2oP/
     
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    Anti-maskers are the biggest idiots of the lot.

    1. The virus is spread thru air droplets that people dispense through their nose/mouth.

    2. A face covering will catch at least some of those air droplets and prevent the spread.

    Not acknowledging basic facts and politicizing it is the work of people with reduced mental faculties.
     
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    3 minutes in, heard no mention of masks, does he argue against wearing masks in his video? Not sitting through all of that.
     
  13. illmatic99

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    Better yet, make him sign some notarized form to prevent him taking away medical resources from someone who actually complies with common sense.
     
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    Reached this level of frustration a few months ago. Welcome.
     
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    People should wear masks until a vaccine is available. It's common sense.
     
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    What worries me most is the inevitable jump in fatalities that will come in the next week or so. The death rate closely mimics the positive case rate but there's an obvious latency to when the former will manifest. The huge uptick in positive cases resulting from Memorial day, BLM protests, political rallies, states re-opening too fast will lead to an eventual huge uptick in deaths.

    We are still WORSE now by almost every metric than we were in April. How is that even possible? You want the country to re-open fully and come back to normal? Wear a fucking mask-- it's the least you can do.
     
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    I went to Home Depot yesterday and everyone was wearing a mask as required. Of course, you see the dipsticks who game the system by pulling the mask down so their nose isn’t covered. Man, was I tempted to pick up a 2x4 and “accidentally” smack the guy doing that near me in the beak.
     
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    Nah the uptick in deaths won’t be as significant as the positive cases.
     
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    brian proctor is a doctor and darling of the far-right because he's made claims he 'cured' Covid with HCQ and zinc. Claims that have been discredited enough that both youtube and facebook have removed his videos.

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    more specifically, what Proctor said:

    * While the effectiveness of Procter’s stated training regimen is unproven, however, his statements also contain several claims that have already been debunked. For instance, in the video he criticizes the use of facial coverings and social distancing to mitigate the spread of the virus:

    "Wearing masks is kind of ridiculous as a long-term solution. There’s no proven data about this. Another thing you need to know is, this prevents us from developing passive immunity; if you’re out in the public and you contract some disease and you develop antibodies to this you could passively potentially give your antibodies to someone else and their own immune system might develop an immunity to the same disease. So wearing masks all the time’s just not what our body is built for. No one talks about that, of course
    ." *
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    in other words, the fool is making a bet, for you, that you'll have better odds of somehow passively acquiring the anti-bodies from someone who has survived Covid than acquiring the virus from someone who has Covid. Just think about that a moment or two
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    more:

    * Contrary to his argument, several studies have already demonstrated that both the use of masks and maintaining social distancing when possible have shown positive results.

    LaMere also responded to Procter’s claims regarding face coverings and “passive immunity”:

    "We do not passively transfer antibodies to each other. The only case where this happens is when neonates get colostrum from their mothers, but otherwise we aren’t sharing antibodies with other people. Exposure to pathogens on an individual basis is how we develop them
    ." *

    and:

    * "If he is trying to (poorly) argue that we are preventing herd immunity, the thing to understand here is that herd immunity only develops once a certain percentage of the population has developed immunity to a pathogen. This does not happen passively. It either happens when a large percentage has contracted the virus, or a large percentage has been vaccinated. In the first scenario, if 70% of our population is infected with SARS-CoV-2, in the United States that will correspond to the death of nearly 1 million people before we achieve herd immunity, and that is using the very conservative estimate of a 0.4% infection fatality rate. If we assume the infection fatality is closer to 1%, then it means the death of well over 2 million people. In a perfect world we would instead achieve herd immunity using a vaccine, which would result in substantially less loss of life. Until we have vaccines and/or better therapeutics, social distancing and masks to prevent viral spread are our best tools to prevent a substantial death toll.

    Our bodies weren’t built to wear shoes either, but that doesn’t mean they provide no benefit
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    " *

    https://www.truthorfiction.com/my-name-is-brian-c-procter-covid-19/

    (and of course, we don't know with any certainty that herd immunity is even possible with Covid. Some data suggests immunity is so short-term we'd never get there)
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    that doctor isn't dispensing sound medical advise....he's pumping out his theories and he's quacking when he does

    shit like that is piled high on right-wing websites. People like ABM can find any contrary "perspective" they want to refute reality and that's what he did in this case. It's pretty easy to recognize the horseshit though
     
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