Politics Turning GA, NC, NV, and/or PA into victory (Biden vs Trump, 2020 election!)

The point is, that there is no enthusiasm for Biden from voters. If there was Biden's lead would be much larger. The tanking economy and the virus might do Trump in, but Biden isn't anyone's dream candidate by a long shot.

 

The polls say differently and a group of supporters of Warren's and Sanders is an extremely small sample size. Not very often does an incumbent lose an election and has all the advantages going into an election and polls nationwide show Biden up by 9 points.

 

People's life are in shambles because of the disastrous Trump administration - there is a global pandemic running with the US serving as the poster boy for mismanagement, racial discord, economic strife. People are just not going to be enthusiastic for anything, yet Biden is over 50% in the polls. When the president who declared a year or so ago that Biden would be his dream opponent is suggesting that the elections would be rigged, trying to curtail mail voting and asking to delay the elections - it is pretty clear that even he sees that there Biden is way ahead of him.

I think you are mis-diagnosing the situation.

 

So you are saying. The polls have more to do with Trump's mismanagement than anything Biden is doing.

That is my point as well.

Biden has never drawn any enthusiasm from voters. Period. If polls show him doing well, it isn't by any of his doing.

 

Biden has been in public service and elected to senate multiple times between 1973 and 2008.

This means that he has either been extremely lucky to run against worse candidates than him for over 20 years, or that your hypothesis is without merit.

At the end of the day, in the presidential elections it comes down to 2 realistic candidates - and even if many people were not enthusiastic about him from a much larger pool, they are more enthusiastic about him than the alternative - which is really, all that matters.

 

I am talking about this election run dude.

 

Hard to discern from your use of the word 'never'. Don't blame me for responding to your message as it was written...

BTW - since he defeated Bernie and EW that had a lot of enthusiasm for their campaigns - maybe having a small amount of enthusiasm for a candidate with great apathy by a large portion of the vote is not that important...

 

I think you're grossly overrating the importance of enthusiasm. Bernie voters have had plenty of enthusiasm but Bernie has lost twice. And after losing to Clinton, a bunch of those enthusiastic Bernie voters, like Susan Sarandon, stayed home in 2016 or voted for Jill Stein....and brought us 4 years of trump. Apparently, many of them have learned from that stupid childish mistake

Obama generated massive enthusiasm in 2008. So much so that after election night in 2008 the Democrats controlled the presidency, the Senate, the House, a majority of governors, and a majority of state legislatures. Then Obama spent his first 2 years trying to make nice with the R's, with no success at al, while NOT adhering to the talk he talked in 2008. The 2008 enthusiasm didn't mean shit because when Obama left office, the R's controlled everything: the White House, Senate, House, majority of governors and legislatures, and the courts

what I'm saying is fuck enthusiasm because it's for kids. It gets nothing done. It's not sustainable. It's meaningless on the left side of the political spectrum. Give me practical voters who look at the last 4 years and say enough is enough

 

You seem to believe that your opinion means more than mine does. Sorry, but that is all I am reading here.

 

lol....wut? that makes no sense

you are the one that kept harping about enthusiasm and it's meaning. I disagreed on the meaning. Welcome to the internet

 

Boomers for Biden lol

It only took the worst president in history to convince yourselves he's a solid choice.

 

Say what? Biden's lead is already insurmountable and growing.

 

define enthusiasm.

 

agree...its more of a vote against Trump than a vote for Joe. It happened last election too the key mid west states put trump in the wh cause they couldn't stand hillary.

 

Yeah, but look what they got. They trashed America.

 

The one thing Hillary has over Joe is that, she is more hated. Joe is just more "tolerable" to voters, even republicans.