<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Jul 17 2007, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I heard that there is gold, silver, and bronze memberships, do they all cost the same? Whats the differance between in an intercooler and a fan?Whats so good about the Eliite one?</div>There is only gold and silver. Silver is free, but you can't play anyone. You can still download things though. With Gold, you can play whoever has Xbox Live.The Nyko Intercooler hooks onto the back of the 360. They burn into the 360 which messes it up... Microsoft knows of this problem and will not fix it even if it is under warranty because it is not their product. A cooling stand fan is a fan which makes your 360 stand up vertical. I suggest a cooling stand fan.The Elite is black. It has a 120 GB HD, and an HDMI port. If you will download things from XBox Live, you may want to get the Elite because it has 100 more GB than the Premium. (You can also buy the 120 GB HD alone which costs $100.) The HDMI port can only be used if you have an HDTV with an HDMI port... The HDMI cord also costs $30 at Wal-Mart.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Great, so that wireless adaptor can pick up the network that I'm currently using online?</div>I just remembered, if you don't buy the Microsoft one, then you have to put in a CD and connect the adapter to your router to get the settings right.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (808Hornetsfan @ Jul 17 2007, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Great, so that wireless adaptor can pick up the network that I'm currently using online?</div>Yeah, you just have to manually connect it to that wireless network.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SpursFan10 @ Jul 17 2007, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There is only gold and silver. Silver is free, but you can't play anyone. You can still download things though. With Gold, you can play whoever has Xbox Live.The Nyko Intercooler hooks onto the back of the 360. They burn into the 360 which messes it up... Microsoft knows of this problem and will not fix it even if it is under warranty because it is not their product. A cooling stand fan is a fan which makes your 360 stand up vertical. I suggest a cooling stand fan.The Elite is black. It has a 120 GB HD, and an HDMI port. If you will download things from XBox Live, you may want to get the Elite because it has 100 more GB than the Premium. (You can also buy the 120 GB HD alone which costs $100.) The HDMI port can only be used if you have an HDTV with an HDMI port... The HDMI cord also costs $30 at Wal-Mart.I just remembered, if you don't buy the Microsoft one, then you have to put in a CD and connect the adapter to your router to get the settings right.</div>Can't on premiums you just need a HDMI cord?
On premiums, there is no HDMI port for the cord to go into. For premiums, there are VGA cords, and composite/component cords.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SpursFan10 @ Jul 17 2007, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>On premiums, there is no HDMI port for the cord to go into. For premiums, there are VGA cords, and composite/component cords.</div>I'm kind of confused, what all do you need to get HD on a premium xbox?
I think you just need the wires for it... why would they not give you HDMI when that's one of their selling point
By the time you buy an 360 with everything you need and to get internet you might as well buy a ps3. I'd say just buy a ps3 now that they only cost 500$.60$/1year internet+ Xbox 400$/batteries for wireless controller per year 60$ = 520$ PS3/forever internet/blu ray player/no batteries for rechargeable controller = 500$
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camby23Land @ Jul 17 2007, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm kind of confused, what all do you need to get HD on a premium xbox?</div>The cables that come with the Xbox allow the game to be in HD. The HDMI connection (only in the Elite) has better picture quality and sound because it is made specifically for HDTVs. You also have to change the settings for it to be in HD. (Settings>Display).<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (7Goat @ Jul 17 2007, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think you just need the wires for it... why would they not give you HDMI when that's one of their selling point</div>HDMI is only in the Elite. You can get HD without it, but it won't be the best quality. The premium and core do not have the HDMI port.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>By the time you buy an 360 with everything you need and to get internet you might as well buy a ps3. I'd say just buy a ps3 now that they only cost 500$.60$/1year internet+ Xbox 400$/batteries for wireless controller per year 60$ = 520$PS3/forever internet/blu ray player/no batteries for rechargeable controller = 500$</div>Eh, Xbox Live is $50, and you can buy a thing for $20 that is a rechargeable battery, so its really only $470... Also, most people don't even use the Blu-Ray player... I find that HD-DVD players and Blu-Ray players are a waste of money because they now have DVD players that will upconvert to 1080p, so you won't have to buy $30 movies, you can just keep the DVDs you have and watch them.Right now though for the price and features, they are both even. I would go with the Xbox though because it has been out longer, has better games, and, as the case in NCAA Football 08, runs smoother. (PS3 runs 30 Frames Per Second (FPS); Xbox runs 60 FPS, which makes gameplay smoother. This is only in NCAA Football 08, but I'm sure there will be more until they can get PS3 games to run at 60 FPS.)
I owned a 360 and never noticed a different in frame rate. I also kind of think Blu-Ray might die though , its not really catching on so far at least. PS3 has free internet forever. If you own a xbox 360 with live for 2 years you already could have had a ps3. PS3 doesn't have as good of games yet but it will in time and right now the games out arent terrible. I remember when PS2 first came out it also had sh*tty games other then a few big titles(ffX,SSX,etc.)
the bad thing about xbox is their customer service blows, my 360 broke like 3 weeks ago and I still havent gotten it back so I called em up to ask where it was and they said they were replacing hardware in the system to prevent the "red ring of death" and it would take another 4-6 weeks before I get it back.
So far this is my bill: (All prices CAN, all prices including tax)1 xbox elite $6322 wireless controllers $137wireless adapter $150quick charge kit $45gold subscription $67Gears of War $73Total: $1104 give or take a couple 50 dollars.Thats pretty expensive.However a PS3 with tax (60 gb) is $631 ontop of that, all games START at $50. and the wireless controlles cost about the same. The only thing im paying more for is adapter, charge kit, and gold membership. which is about 250 dollars. However you get better games and better online play, I dont really mind that. And to add, I dont like any PS3 games so it kind of evens out for me. Also,Do I need the fan for elite?
Didn't read the whole thread, but here's my answer:Buy a premium 360, and definitely get Xbox Live. It's $60 for the entire year, and it is more than worth the price, especially if you play a lot. You won't get the most out of the 360 unless you have Xbox Live. If you want a cooler, buy a stand fan (it's $10, and works beautifully). The intercooler or any cooler you attach to the back of your 360 is absolutely worthless, and has been proven to cause problems with the 360.Game-wise I would get Gears of War, Halo 3 (pre-order) and wait for NBA 2k8, etc. Also, if you play a lot, then get a membership with GameFly... it's $15 a month for one game, $22 for two games. It is definitely worth it.Also get a decent pack of rechargeable batteries for the wireless controllers. Don't buy those crappy plug-and-play kits that Microsoft sells... they are worthless.If you want your 360 to connect to your wireless router, you'll have to buy a wireless adapter for the 360, and it runs around $100.EDIT: BUY THE ELITE AT YOUR OWN RISK. THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH THEM. Some of them were made with refurbished parts... but I think that was just the first batch. Just be careful with it... but it is worth it money-wise.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 18 2007, 12:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I owned a 360 and never noticed a different in frame rate.</div>Thats because they just made 60 FPS for the 360.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Jul 19 2007, 12:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Didn't read the whole thread, but here's my answer:Buy a premium 360, and definitely get Xbox Live. It's $60 for the entire year, and it is more than worth the price, especially if you play a lot. You won't get the most out of the 360 unless you have Xbox Live. If you want a cooler, buy a stand fan (it's $10, and works beautifully). The intercooler or any cooler you attach to the back of your 360 is absolutely worthless, and has been proven to cause problems with the 360.Also get a decent pack of rechargeable batteries for the wireless controllers. Don't buy those crappy plug-and-play kits that Microsoft sells... they are worthless.If you want your 360 to connect to your wireless router, you'll have to buy a wireless adapter for the 360, and it runs around $100.</div>You can buy a card for $50 here, and you get 15 months.Why is the plug-and-play kit worthless?You can also by any brand (Linksys makes one) game adapter which will cost around $60 instead of the one microsoft sells for $100, but with the game adapters, you have you to plug it into your router.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SpursFan10 @ Jul 19 2007, 12:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You can buy a card for $50 here, and you get 15 months.Why is the plug-and-play kit worthless?You can also by any brand (Linksys makes one) game adapter which will cost around $60 instead of the one microsoft sells for $100, but with the game adapters, you have you to plug it into your router.</div>I never liked the plug-and-play kits... I'm happier with a 12 pack of rechargeable AA batteries for $20...And yeah, you can buy other adapters, it all depends on where you look. I got the Microsoft adapter for $50... but it's hard to find for anything less than $100 (and not F*cked up).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Jul 19 2007, 01:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I never liked the plug-and-play kits... I'm happier with a 12 pack of rechargeable AA batteries for $20...And yeah, you can buy other adapters, it all depends on where you look. I got the Microsoft adapter for $50... but it's hard to find for anything less than $100 (and not F*cked up).</div>Oh they work with double AA? Thats great because I already have a charger. How much does it each control use?
O by the way, a PS3 is actually cheaper. The PS3, one game, 2 wireless controllers, and a charge kit, it costs around $863
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Jul 19 2007, 08:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh they work with double AA? Thats great because I already have a charger. How much does it each control use?</div>My controllers give me between 20 and 25 hours of gameplay with my rechargeable batteries...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Jul 19 2007, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>My controllers give me between 20 and 25 hours of gameplay with my rechargeable batteries...</div>But they both use 2 AA batteries per controller?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Jul 19 2007, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But they both use 2 AA batteries per controller?</div>Yeah...
