The Race for Eighth

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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I should have been more clear. We can't technically tie with them since we will have played one more game than them (74 vs 73). It effectively works as a tiebreaker of sorts when looking at percentages.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Actually @brooklynballer think i've been thinking about this wrong. Memphis actually are the ones at an advantage if we have the same number of final wins. My bad.

    We have this advantage however on New Orleans and San Antonio.
     
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    I think Toronto likely beats Memphis, their B teams is still very good. But Boston and Milwaukee may rest guys, they are not as deep, so Memphis could easily go 2-1.

    We may have to go undefeated to get #8... and easily could miss the playin altoghether with more than one loss. Phoenix is playing great and all their opponents have had starters rest. SAS only have 3 games left they could likewise win all those.

    Lets hope we beat LAC as any game we could play terrible or the opponent is on fire and have a fluky loss.... I don't want tall of PHI/DAL/BKN to have to be must win games; followed again by needing two win two of a playin vs Memphis... 5 straight wins will be very difficult.
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Yes we need Memphis to lose one game then we control our destiny for the 8th seed.
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Current record
    Current W L
    MEM 33 37
    PDX 32 38
    PHX 30 39
    SAS 30 38
    NOP 29 39
    SAC 29 39

    Best possible record
    Best W L %
    MEM 36 37 0.493
    PDX 36 38 0.486
    PHX 34 39 0.466
    SAS 33 38 0.465
    NOP 33 39 0.458
    SAC 33 39 0.458

    Worst possible record
    Worst W L %
    MEM 33 40 0.452
    PDX 32 42 0.432
    PHX 30 43 0.411
    SAS 30 41 0.423
    NOP 29 43 0.403
    SAC 29 43 0.403

    Remaining schedule;
    Date 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
    MEM>> --- --- TOR --- BOS --- MIL
    PDX>> --- LAC PHI --- DAL --- BKN
    PHX>> --- MIA --- OKC PHI --- DAL
    SAS>> --- --- NOP --- HOU --- UTH
    NOP>> WSH --- SAS --- SAC --- ORL
    SAC>> BKN --- HOU --- NOP --- LAL


    Ending win percentage if each team has this many additional losses;
    Team 0 1 2 3
    MEM 0.493 0.479 0.466 0.452
    PDX 0.486 0.473 0.459 0.446
    PHX 0.466 0.452 0.438
    SAS 0.465 0.451 0.437
    NOP 0.458 0.444
    SAC 0.458 0.444
     
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    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    Only the lakers and Memphis want grizz at 8. League wide.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    lmao i was just compiling that same list. Thank you
     
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    Kings are eliminated from #8 spot now. Portland needs 1 win (or 1 Kings loss) to eliminate them from the #9 position.
     
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    Also, Memphis only needs 1 win, or 1 loss each by Spurs, Phx, & Pels to clinch the #9 spot.
    In that scenario, Memphis and Suns will have the exact same record - but Grizz get the spot based on head2head.
     
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    I think we want the Pelicans to beat Washington today... then they have something to play for against the Spurs and could maybe beat them. If the Spurs and Phoenix each have one more loss we will get 9th even with two losses.

    Spurs last two games are against Houston and Utah... Utah and Denver seem to be doing unusual tanking for playoff spots so maybe those two Spurs games see opponent starters sit and the Spurs win both.
     
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    Its crazy that the 538 predictor has NOP with a 7% chance of the playoffs but PHX with 3%

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-nba-predictions/

    It seems like they are setting the probablity of a win based on opponents attributes that lead to its season record.... thats totally worthless with all the resting and tanking for position going on. It would be more accurate to just list every game as 50/50 chance of each team winning.
     
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    NOP needs to win out, have Phoenix lose a game, and either;

    Memphis go 0-3 or
    PDX go 1-3

    I don't see how there is a 7% chance of that all happening... seems more like 1 out of 100



    Phoenix needs to win out and have either;
    Memphis go 0-3 or
    PDX go 2-2

    That seems much more likely... probably 15% or such.
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong: we can eliminate Sacramento with a win tomorrow. Also- if NO loses tonight, we can eliminate them too. Because our record the worse we could be is 33-41 and the best they could be is 32-40. Pretty cool. Go Blazers!
     
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    Sacramento cannot catch Memphis. They would need to win out 3-0, have all three of;
    us go 0-4
    Phoenix go 2-2
    Spurs go 1-2

    I consider them eliminated... thats probably a 1 in 1000 chance of all happening.
     
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    Knew it. At least one guy
     
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    Omg this thread is spinning my head around so fast.
    Someone let me know when we are a lock or out mathematically. Lol.
    I do appreciate the efforts to keep it straight though!
     
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    It doesn’t matter. It’s impossible for us to tie them since we played a different amount of games before restart.
     
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    We don’t have Swanigan though.
     
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    Rasheed and Bill Walton in attendance!
     
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