<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pronk48 @ Jul 19 2007, 01:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He will be locked up for at least, a minimum of 2 years. The fact that the feds brought on this indictment as fast as they did, and the fact that they get a conviction on 95% of their indictments, they have Vick nailed. But Goodell not suspending Vick for at least some games is pathetic.</div> The the in Surry County is also looking into filing charges against Vick for anything that happened within Virginia, so that may tack on a little more jail time.
We should f*cking drown Michael Vick and see how is ass likes it. God I thought Mike was the good guy and Marcus was the ***hole....... Marcus still is, but these Vick kids are a real piece of sh*t. I hope Michael gets stabbed in prison!
http://mikevick.com/index_profile.html Look on the left under 'pets'...he has listed 'birds and dogs.' :no1:
I f*cking hate this bastard more and more by the second. He shouldn't play in the NFL ever again!!! I would take Pacman, Tank, Chris Henry over this bastard any f*cking day
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years...17072vick1.html You can read the entire indictment there.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jul 19 2007, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>http://mikevick.com/index_profile.html Look on the left under 'pets'...he has listed 'birds and dogs.' :no1:</div>Look under his birthplace it says 'BadNews'. The kennel was named BadNewz
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The`Dream @ Jul 20 2007, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Look under his birthplace it says 'BadNews'. The kennel was named BadNewz</div> Yeah, that's the nickname of Newport News, VA...And the indictment is also available in its entirety on ESPN.com...
Looks like Goodell isn't going to do jack sh*t...the NFL is too afraid to lose such a marketable player I guess.
This is what should happen to Vick in real life... let a bunch of pitbulls just rip him to shreds:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBuEBHi3BzU
I hate how everyone judges vick when he hasnt been found guilty yet. It's nothing new though, everyone always tries to hang black celebrities the second they get in legal issues even without knowing the case. Perhaps vick is guilty, perhaps he isnt, but without knowing extensively about the case, its unfair to make a blind opinion.
everyone hates the black athletes!http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years...17072vick1.html18 pages of evidence? damn we sure are jumpin the gun here
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jul 23 2007, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>everyone hates the black athletes!http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years...17072vick1.html18 pages of evidence? damn we sure are jumpin the gun here</div>There is 18 pages to indicate dog fighting happened at that house,and you'd have to be blind to think it didnt happen, but there is no direct evidence against vick as of yet, and I believe he will get off free, and be hated forever as was OJ.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 23 2007, 10:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I hate how everyone judges vick when he hasnt been found guilty yet. It's nothing new though, everyone always tries to hang black celebrities the second they get in legal issues even without knowing the case. Perhaps vick is guilty, perhaps he isnt, but without knowing extensively about the case, its unfair to make a blind opinion.</div> Of course it seems like black athletes get hit hard when they get legal issues, by the press and fans, because in major sports, a vast majority of the people that get in legal trouble are....duh duh duh duh! BLACK! Why can't people be allowed to have an opinion on the case and think Vick is guilty or not? The indicment is right there, why shouldn't I be able to make a judgement if I feel like it? It's up to the courts anyway, sports fans have nothing to do with the process, it's a big story, I can make a 'blind' opinion if I want. Guilty or not, Vick still was involved in disgusting acts, if a large majority of people still cannot stand him, good for them. And Primetime, your bashing us for thinking he's guilty and rushing to judgement, and making 'blind' opinions...but you said Vick will get off free, your doing exactly what we are doing, making judements based off little information, your in the same boat as us but you have a different opinion on how it will end....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 23 2007, 10:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It's nothing new though, everyone always tries to hang black celebrities the second they get in legal issues even without knowing the case.</div>It has nothing to do with being black or a celebrity. There have been lots of cases with white people where I've believed people were guilty long before I knew absolutely everything, because the facts were all there and were obvious. Pretty common sense.Examples:JonBenet Ramsey (was most likely killed by her parents, as pretty much everything points to it)Andrea Yates (seems like she knew what she was doing was wrong)Scott Peterson/Laci Peterson (He killed her, it was obvious because he changed his hair and headed for the border. He quite possibly killed another girl, too.)Chris Benoit (Yes, he was a celebrity, but he still fits what I'm talking about. People kept claiming that he was so well-liked and a good family man, but what the hell does that have to do with his capability to murder and commit suicide? Nothing.)You keep saying there's no direct evidence. I don't know why you're saying that when there's an 18-page report. You're verifying that nothing in that report is valid?p.s. OJ was guilty, and even though he didn't get convicted, he did lose a civil case.
The NFL has announced that Vick should stay away from training camp until he gets his legal matters together. Pretty much a sugarcoated suspension, I guess. Vick is a damn idiot; he tried to keep it real and look where it got him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 23 2007, 10:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I hate how everyone judges vick when he hasnt been found guilty yet. It's nothing new though, everyone always tries to hang black celebrities the second they get in legal issues even without knowing the case. Perhaps vick is guilty, perhaps he isnt, but without knowing extensively about the case, its unfair to make a blind opinion.</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 23 2007, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There is 18 pages to indicate dog fighting happened at that house,and you'd have to be blind to think it didnt happen, but there is no direct evidence against vick as of yet, and I believe he will get off free, and be hated forever as was OJ.</div> OK, honestly speaking, I'm tired of you making this into a race thing. This has nothing to do with the fact that he's black... it has everything to do with the fact that he allowed and condoned dogfighting and the execution of dogs on his property. You are the only one who is ignorant enough to make this about race. We all hang black athletes? I guess everybody still thinks Kobe is a rapist, right? I guess everybody hates AI because he was charged with 14 felonies in 2004, right? Yeah... sure, whatever. It's funny though, because I get the feeling you're only defending him because he's black... I bet if it was a white player, say somebody like Tom Brady or Peyton Manning (but they never would do it because they have some f*cking class and morals), you'd "jump the gun" and say they're guilty, etc. You're playing two sides of the same issue by accusing everybody of making it a race thing by saying he's guilty, whereas you're sitting there saying he's innocent simply because of the color of his skin. You are not looking at the facts in this case...Yes, 18 pages confirm that dog fighting occured at the house, and there are federal witnesses who put Vick at a lot of the fights. Also, even if Vick did not personally pull the trigger, execute the dogs, etc., HE KNEW ABOUT IT. Think about it dumbass:- He is a registered pit bull breeder.- He bought a property for the use of dog fighting.- Dog-fighting paraphanalia were seized at the property.- There are witnesses who can detail when he was at specific fights and how much money he wagered on said fights.- Since this entire thing has happened, has he ever publicly said that he has had nothing to do with it? No!He owned the house... if you're going to say that he had no idea that this was happening at a property he owned, then you are an idiot. He had knowledge of what was happening at the house, and did nothing to stop it, which by law indicates he acted as a conspirator and thus can be charged with conspiracy. Whether or not he was at the house is a moot point (the only thing it effects is how much jail time he gets), because he had knowledge of what was occuring and made absolutely no effort to stop it.Also, I find this VERY interesting... has he publicly denied his involvement and/or knowledge of the dog-fighting ring since it was initially reported that investigators believed he was involved? No he hasn't! Think about some of the big investigations the past few years involving professional athletes... BLACK professional athletes:- Kobe Bryant: The DAY AFTER the accusations, he held a press conference proclaiming his innocence.- Barry Bonds: How many times has he said he hasn't used steroids? (Whether or not he has doesn't matter...)- Allen Iverson: Charged with 14 felonies in 2004... publicly denied everything, charges dropped, etc.- Ray Lewis: We all know that story...The point is that he has not denied any of the allegations against him, meaning only one thing: He knew about the entire thing. If you were in his position, and these type of severe allegations were made against you, wouldn't you deny that sh*t? I know I sure as hell would... but he hasn't. If the man himself knows he's guilty, why is it so hard for you to see that he is too?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Knicksfan3 @ Jul 26 2007, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Vick pleaded not guilty just now, Trial Date is November 26th according to ESPN.</div> Gotta love the "Rocket Docket"... any other courthouse wouldn't have set a trial date that early.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Jul 26 2007, 12:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>OK, honestly speaking, I'm tired of you making this into a race thing. This has nothing to do with the fact that he's black... it has everything to do with the fact that he allowed and condoned dogfighting and the execution of dogs on his property. You are the only one who is ignorant enough to make this about race. We all hang black athletes? I guess everybody still thinks Kobe is a rapist, right? I guess everybody hates AI because he was charged with 14 felonies in 2004, right? Yeah... sure, whatever. It's funny though, because I get the feeling you're only defending him because he's black... I bet if it was a white player, say somebody like Tom Brady or Peyton Manning (but they never would do it because they have some f*cking class and morals), you'd "jump the gun" and say they're guilty, etc. You're playing two sides of the same issue by accusing everybody of making it a race thing by saying he's guilty, whereas you're sitting there saying he's innocent simply because of the color of his skin. You are not looking at the facts in this case...Yes, 18 pages confirm that dog fighting occured at the house, and there are federal witnesses who put Vick at a lot of the fights. Also, even if Vick did not personally pull the trigger, execute the dogs, etc., HE KNEW ABOUT IT. Think about it dumbass:- He is a registered pit bull breeder.- He bought a property for the use of dog fighting.- Dog-fighting paraphanalia were seized at the property.- There are witnesses who can detail when he was at specific fights and how much money he wagered on said fights.- Since this entire thing has happened, has he ever publicly said that he has had nothing to do with it? No!He owned the house... if you're going to say that he had no idea that this was happening at a property he owned, then you are an idiot. He had knowledge of what was happening at the house, and did nothing to stop it, which by law indicates he acted as a conspirator and thus can be charged with conspiracy. Whether or not he was at the house is a moot point (the only thing it effects is how much jail time he gets), because he had knowledge of what was occuring and made absolutely no effort to stop it.Also, I find this VERY interesting... has he publicly denied his involvement and/or knowledge of the dog-fighting ring since it was initially reported that investigators believed he was involved? No he hasn't! Think about some of the big investigations the past few years involving professional athletes... BLACK professional athletes:- Kobe Bryant: The DAY AFTER the accusations, he held a press conference proclaiming his innocence.- Barry Bonds: How many times has he said he hasn't used steroids? (Whether or not he has doesn't matter...)- Allen Iverson: Charged with 14 felonies in 2004... publicly denied everything, charges dropped, etc.- Ray Lewis: We all know that story...The point is that he has not denied any of the allegations against him, meaning only one thing: He knew about the entire thing. If you were in his position, and these type of severe allegations were made against you, wouldn't you deny that sh*t? I know I sure as hell would... but he hasn't. If the man himself knows he's guilty, why is it so hard for you to see that he is too?</div>First off the media always hangs black celebrities, its not me bringing race into it, its just the way it is. Maybe it is because many black athletes get in legal trouble but its not as if im blindly saying you shouldnt judge vick because he's black. What I am saying is before you hang a man hear his story and know the actual situation. There are people who want vick DEAD! Its not about race but about knowing circumstances before judgement. And vick did deny it today.
