Politics Biden Picks Kamala Harris As Running Mate

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  1. Road Ratt

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  3. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Sorry, but suggesting drinking bleach, hitting the inside of the body with UV light, etc, etc, etc is NOT a cognizant individual. Or at least not the kind that should be leading this country. Argue all you want, Trump is no more mentally capable of being president than Biden. He has proven that very single day of his White House occupation. It has been more than accurately documented. If mental competencies are the measuring stick, Trump loses every damn time.
     
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    Neither is Biden, and it's only stupid conspiracy theories that allege so. I was pointing out that Trump is just as gaffe prone, he's constantly unable to pronounce words correctly, he wanders off on wild tangents, etc. If Trump were the Democrat, I'm pretty sure you'd be screaming about how he was the one with dementia and it's "senior abuse" to keep him as President. (I don't believe that, but that's what you'd be saying.)

    I don't think either man is suffering from "senior dementia." Biden has been gaffe-prone his entire public life, he's obviously just a bad public speaker. If the important part of being President, to me, was public speaking, I'd be concerned. While it's good to have a President who can speak well, I consider that a more minor part of the job.
     
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    Lol, okay bro.. He's going to be an EIGHTY year old POTUS.
     
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    Nothing slips past you. Except that Trump is 74 and struggles even more with public speaking. I mean, we get it--you and johnnyboy like Trump and dislike Biden. I'm okay with that.
     
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    UV light injection therapy is actually a real thing Not saying it was smart or whatever with COVID I have no idea, but that treatment has been around for a while.
    The rest I mostly agree with.
     
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    Nah you don't. I was pissed in 2016 when the Media gave Trump front and center stage. He's done nothing positive for conservatives. It's just shocking to me how so many really smart people can see past Biden's obvious decline.
     
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    I think they struggle in different ways with speaking. One appears to be thinking way too much and confusing himself which leads to stammering, drifting off as he tries to formulate the thoughts. The other really doesn't think at all and the mouth just kinda keeps moving even when the brain isn't going anywhere.

    Not sure anyone can deny that the appeal for most "Biden" voters is the idea of who they can put around him, and kind of have an hands-off president. Whether it's cognitive decline or whatever I think the appeal for most is that he'll let other people make a lot of the really important decisions.

    Trump on the other hand has a gigantic ego and ignores everyone to make his own decisions.

    Like it or not there are pro's and cons to both approaches in that regards.
     
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    Everyone declines at some point. "Senior dementia" is ridiculous, though. I have a hard time crediting people who think Biden has a cognitive problem but Trump is fine. I actually don't think either person is mentally unfit for the job (Trump I consider unfit for other reasons), but both can't consistently keep it together when talking at length.
     
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    I kinda of think both are unfit for the job, this has nothing to do with the republican/democrat thing. Part of being a leader is being able to make quick, important decisions, and communicate those decisions clearly. Especially in times of war or really most foreign policy stuff. I think Biden's likely to get talked over and ran over diplomatically, and Trumps well... yikes. You can be a strong, good communicator without being brash, without being insulting, Trumps not that... However I don't know if I'd trust Biden to get the "best" for the US when communicating to Xi, or Putin either (not that Trump does now...).
     
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    You forgot nuking hurricanes.
     
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    That's possible, certainly, but I'm not convinced that because he's not great at speaking extemporaneously, he's also bad at making quick, solid decisions. I think he's bad at a very specific thing--navigating how to express his thoughts to a wide audience with competing belief systems, which leads to comments on race that sound awkward or ignorant or whatnot. That makes him bad at communicating in national interviews, but doesn't necessarily make him bad at communicating with his team in private or with another world leader.

    I mean, he might be bad at that too. I'm not here to say he's clearly great at that. But the issue I've seen with him in public speaking to the nation at large doesn't automatically mean he's incapable of communicating in other contexts.
     
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    That's fair, it's almost impossible for any of us to know how someone is in situations we haven't seen them in.
    I guess it's just my impression of how they both interact when on camera. Neither one of them really incite a lot of confidence for me when it comes to speaking and making good decisions while speaking.
     
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    Do you know that Biden had a stuttering problem when he was younger. That often never goes away completely? trump on the other hand is just a dummy.

    https://niemanreports.org/articles/biden-stutter/
     
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    Yeah, I'm aware, but listening to his speeches and interviews when he was VP to now, he seems to have regressed maybe it's just that his stutter has come back I don't know.
     
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    So will Trump
     
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    It's his stutter. It never really left. It's been there.
     
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    Not sure the math works but we can round up 1. :)
     
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    78 is basically 80
     

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