Re: Who Could beat the '98 Bulls? Is there any team in nba history who could beat the '98 chicago bulls?
Re: Who Could beat the '98 Bulls? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jul 18 2007, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>50s-60s Celtics and the 80s Lakers</div>Any explainations? Thats pretty vague, and the 80s lakers(while older and without kareem) Lost to the 91' Bulls who werent as good as the 98' bulls.I dont even think the 80s Lakers were that much out of their prime in 91', they were still playing at a high level and magic was the same magic he ever was. He was still in his prime. It was a matter of the best defensive team ever assembled vs. a slowed down dynasty(who was still a great team but a shadow of themselves)
Re: Who Could beat the '98 Bulls? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 18 2007, 12:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Any explainations? Thats pretty vague, and the 80s lakers(while older and without kareem) Lost to the 91' Bulls who werent as good as the 98' bulls.I dont even think the 80s Lakers were that much out of their prime in 91', they were still playing at a high level and magic was the same magic he ever was. He was still in his prime. It was a matter of the best defensive team ever assembled vs. a slowed down dynasty(who was still a great team but a shadow of themselves)</div>I mean 70s to 80s Lakers, the teams with Magic
Re: Who Could beat the '98 Bulls? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jul 18 2007, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I mean 70s to 80s Lakers, the teams with Magic</div>That is what I was referring to.You do know MJ beat Magics lakers when magic was averaged 20/8/13. Nearly a triple double. They also had a young vlade divac, and the rest of their core from the 80s was still in tact.
Re: Who Could beat the '98 Bulls? The '98 Bulls weren't the best Bulls team...they were getting older, Jordan was plagued by that finger injury, Pippen was breaking down, Rodman was getting older, etc...I'd say any of the mid-'80's Celtics or Lakers could knock them off in a 7 game series. They were just deeper and overall more talented teams than the Bulls were.
Re: Who Could beat the '98 Bulls? I think the 83 Sixers, with Moses Malone, Mo Cheeks, Dr J, Andrew Toney, Bobby Jones, and Marc Ianovari could beat the '98 Bulls.
Re: Who Could beat the '98 Bulls? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Jul 18 2007, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The '98 Bulls weren't the best Bulls team...they were getting older, Jordan was plagued by that finger injury, Pippen was breaking down, Rodman was getting older, etc...I'd say any of the mid-'80's Celtics or Lakers could knock them off in a 7 game series. They were just deeper and overall more talented teams than the Bulls were.</div>On the 80s lakers and celtics who is going to stop Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan from taking over? The Bulls had plenty of defensive players in 98' to shut out bird or magic IE Pip,Rodmn,MJ,etc.The thing about the 98' bulls is they can score as much points as any team yall can bring up, and shut down that same team with their versatile defense. BTW Rodman was slowed down? in 1998 the guy averaged 15 rpg!
Re: Who Could beat the '98 Bulls? The only thing that can beat the 98 bulls would be the 96 bulls maybe
Re: Who Could beat the '98 Bulls? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KCX @ Jul 18 2007, 01:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The only thing that can beat the 98 bulls would be the 96 bulls maybe</div>Or the 91' Bulls :HAHAHA:
Re: Who Could beat the '98 Bulls? 83 Sixers would win.You could put one of the most underrated players of all time, Bobby Jones on Jordan, and he would be slowed down. Moses Malone was a bruiser down low and his post defense would have made interior scoring for Chicago near impossible. Julius Erving could guard Pippen just fine. Mo Cheeks was an amazing defender for a PG, and he could handle Ron Harper. I think that the 83 Sixers would beat the Bulls in a 7 game series.
Re: Who Could beat the '98 Bulls? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 18 2007, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>On the 80s lakers and celtics who is going to stop Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan from taking over? The Bulls had plenty of defensive players in 98' to shut out bird or magic IE Pip,Rodmn,MJ,etc.The thing about the 98' bulls is they can score as much points as any team yall can bring up, and shut down that same team with their versatile defense. BTW Rodman was slowed down? in 1998 the guy averaged 15 rpg!</div>Pippen and Jordan couldn't slow down Magic Johnson in '91, and that was an older Magic Johnson. Cooper could guard Jordan or Pippen, and no one on the Bulls could guard Kareem. After Magic/Kareem and Pippen/Jordan, the Lakers were much, much deeper.No one could shutdown Showtime Lakers, and they had a very good defense as well. They were just a better overall team than the '98 Bulls.
Re: Who Could beat the '98 Bulls? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Jul 18 2007, 01:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pippen and Jordan couldn't slow down Magic Johnson in '91, and that was an older Magic Johnson. Cooper could guard Jordan or Pippen, and no one on the Bulls could guard Kareem. After Magic/Kareem and Pippen/Jordan, the Lakers were much, much deeper.No one could shutdown Showtime Lakers, and they had a very good defense as well. They were just a better overall team than the '98 Bulls.</div>Pippen couldnt slow down Magic in 91? Have you ever watched the 91' finals? That was not an older magic johnson. As I have said, he was putting up almost a triple double every single game in 1991. He was also having one of his better passing and rebounding seasons of his entire nba career.Cooper was a great defender but he would likely be paired with Pippen, and pippens long arms could get him a solid 15 a game even against a prime showtime lakers. Also Dennis Rodman in 98' could definately guard the late Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Scottie Pippen nearly shut out karl malone(who at the time was a better post scorer then kareem was in the late 80s)
Re: Who Could beat the '98 Bulls? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 18 2007, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pippen couldnt slow down Magic in 91? Have you ever watched the 91' finals? That was not an older magic johnson. As I have said, he was putting up almost a triple double every single game in 1991. He was also having one of his better passing and rebounding seasons of his entire nba career.</div>Johnson's 1991 NBA Finals stats while guarded by Pippen: 18.5 ppg 7.5 rpg 12.8 apgJohnson's 1990-91 Regular season stats: 19.4 ppg 7.0 apg 12.5 apgMagic was 32 during the '91 Finals and was not as quick as his old self.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Cooper was a great defender but he would likely be paired with Pippen, and pippens long arms could get him a solid 15 a game even against a prime showtime lakers. Also Dennis Rodman in 98' could definately guard the late Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Scottie Pippen nearly shut out karl malone(who at the time was a better post scorer then kareem was in the late 80s)</div>Dennis Rodman- A 6'7'' PF who relied on poking ball away from others and outquicking players at his position.Karl Malone- A 6'9''PF who never really used his height to his advantage, mostly using agility and jumpshot to score.Kareem Abdul Jabaar- A 7'2'' center whose shot wasn't effected even when other 7ft center guarded him. Never did much ballhandling, so Rodman would not really effect him.Basically Rodman would be giving up 7 inches and 15lbs to Kareem, and since Kareem didn't rely on quickness or much ballhandling to get open, Rodman would be at a major disadvantage.
Re: Who Could beat the '98 Bulls? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Jul 18 2007, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think the 83 Sixers, with Moses Malone, Mo Cheeks, Dr J, Andrew Toney, Bobby Jones, and Marc Ianovari could beat the '98 Bulls.</div>The Showtime Lakers were able to beat the Sixers in the finals twice. Kareem was injured through most of the first series as well, yet Magic was still able to carry his team to a championship at the center position as a rookie. If Showtime couldn't beat the Bulls, the Sixers certainly can't.Also, Primetime are you talking about the entire Bulls team up until '98 or just the squad that beat the Jazz.
Re: Who Could beat the '98 Bulls? '96, '97, and '91 bulls could. Also the '86 Celtics would have a chance against them. Maybe the 4-5-4 Sixers.
Re: Who Could beat the '98 Bulls? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Jul 18 2007, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Showtime Lakers were able to beat the Sixers in the finals twice. Kareem was injured through most of the first series as well, yet Magic was still able to carry his team to a championship at the center position as a rookie. If Showtime couldn't beat the Bulls, the Sixers certainly can't.Also, Primetime are you talking about the entire Bulls team up until '98 or just the squad that beat the Jazz.</div>Im not neccesarily comparing just one bulls team. You can use any bulls team although the 91-94 bulls were completely different from the 96-98 bulls.
Re: Who Could beat the '98 Bulls? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 18 2007, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Im not neccesarily comparing just one bulls team. You can use any bulls team although the 91-94 bulls were completely different from the 96-98 bulls.</div>Okay, then I don't think any team could beat the 96-98 Bulls squad. A 72 win season and 3 championship's proves that you completely dominated the NBA in a pretty tough era. With the exception of the Boston Celtics, who played in a 12 team NBA, no team has dominated like these Bulls did.
Re: Who Could beat the '98 Bulls? 1983 sixers1986 Celtics1972 Lakers http://basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/1972.htmlall 3 of those teams could win a series.it'd be tight and any of those series would go 7 IMO.
Re: Who Could beat the '98 Bulls? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Jul 18 2007, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Showtime Lakers were able to beat the Sixers in the finals twice. Kareem was injured through most of the first series as well, yet Magic was still able to carry his team to a championship at the center position as a rookie. If Showtime couldn't beat the Bulls, the Sixers certainly can't.Also, Primetime are you talking about the entire Bulls team up until '98 or just the squad that beat the Jazz.</div>I'm talking solely the '83 Sixers. They didn't have Moses Malone in '82.
