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of course

the further we get into this the better the chances are for effective treatments. Like that article said though, after 98,000 patients you'd hope there was more evidence it's effective than they have to this point. But like just about all things medical, there are almost never miracle cures. And the treatments that are effective take time to develop, usually time measured in years, not months

I'm 68. I hope to hell if I get it there's more ways to treat it than there are now

 

I can't imagine anyone wanting it to fail, either. However, it should undergo testing before they tout it as good to go.

 

In a time of emergency we should allow the scientist and medical community to decide what's worth trying or not, not those with political motivations. Im sure there have been enough test to approve it for emergency use in an effort to help.
Many are more interested in affirmation versus information, as to how they view things.

 

No, it hasn't got the green light from Fauci at this point. It just has the green light from Trump and his political appointees at this time. When Fauci says okay, then I'll go for it.

 

Fuaci told me early that wearing a mask wasn't effective in preventing getting the virus, he said those that were sick should only wear them. Said there was zero scientific evidence that it would be a deterrent?
He like many learn on the fly about things.

 

Dr. Fauci is one of the world's leading experts on infectious diseases. I have an endocrinologist who trained under him. That endocrinologist is so good that he got the specification for thyroid cancer changed because of my case. He considers himself far inferior to Dr. Fauci in terms of ability to practice medicine. No, I'm sure that Fauci knows what he's talking about. I suspect that some of us didn't understand the context within which he spoke.

 

For some reason I put some trust in The Mayo Clinic and Johns Hopkins, probably more so than Fauci. But I do like Fauci and am impressed at 80 he's still working away rather than playing in a forum all day.

Plasma therapy is older than you and I Lanny. And believe it or not the whole medical community are not sworn Trump soldiers, in fact many think don't give a shit what he or any other president think. They are experts in their field, like you in yours.
Behind the scenes there has been a great effort by renown clinics and doctors to create a fast lane for therapeutics that have shown some positive results.


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It's all about winning the election for Trump.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...navirus-covid-live-updates-us/?outputType=amp

Live updates: Scientists express doubts about coronavirus treatment touted as breakthrough by Trump

 

That's true about the professionals working at places like the Mayo, Johns Hopkins, the CDC and the NIAID arm of the NIH. But don't forget, the political appointees can misdirect these people and Trump's people are doing just that.

Here's some recent news about the plasma therapy for Covid-19 - https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/fda-halts-covid-blood-plasma-emergency-approval

 

I hope for the best and and support the medical industry efforts to try and develop meds and a cure for this disease. I suppose even if there was a vaccine developed before November it would be rejected by many fro political reasons.

 

Why would anyone reject it for political reasons? I'm sure everyone knows there are a lot of lives at stake here.

 

I just think anything that was positive that happened before Nov would be politically rejected because of the polarization. There would be something wrong with it.

 

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/s...onavirus-infection-rate-is-falling-2020-08-24

Sweden has developed herd immunity after refusing to lock down, experts claim. Its coronavirus infection rate is falling
Published: Aug. 24, 2020 at 11:41 a.m. ET

Leading Swedish health experts claim the country has a falling coronavirus infection rate because it was one of the few that didn’t go into lockdown and has rejected the use of masks.

Arne Elofsson, a professor in biometrics at Stockholm University, thinks the population has developed a form of immunity: “Strict rules do not work as people seem to break them. Sweden is doing fine.” Anders Tegnell, an epidemiologist involved in managing Sweden’s pandemic, thinks masks give a false sense of security: “The belief that masks can solve our problem is very dangerous.”

Prime Minister Stefan Löfven thinks voluntary social-distancing rules and not closing schools but a ban on gatherings of more than 50 people has been the right approach.

“Now there are quite a few people who think we were right,” he told a newspaper. “The strategy that we adopted, I believe is right — to protect individuals, limit the spread of the infection.”


Data from the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control show Sweden has a fortnightly infection rate of 37 cases per 100,000 people. This is much lower than France with 60 cases per 100,000 and Spain at 152.7 cases per 100,000.

Experts around the world cannot agree on whether the right approach is to open up schools, scale back lockdowns, and wear masks.

Sweden has seen 5,810 deaths from COVID-19, which is much more than its neighbors so the approach has come with a cost. The scientists do agree that it will take months before it will become clear which country had the right approach.

 

Is this a good thing or is it a problem?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.es...l-positive-tests-return-negative?platform=amp

All of NFL's positive coronavirus tests from the weekend return negative

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kg...t-24/283-1fa09123-d3e9-44ec-a52e-c232c9c4f647

OREGON COVID-19 UPDATES, AUG. 24: 3 MORE DEATHS, 533 MORE CASES REPORTED OVER THE WEEKEND

 

I can't open the NYT. I don't subscribe.