What it will take to get Stotts fired?

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    I'm pretty sure this would get Stotts fired.

    (From the Lillard injury thread.)

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    I’m not a Stotts apologist (can’t stand the term also), but yes there are always injuries and teams must deal with them. When a team has a lot of them, what’s the goal for that team? Make playoffs? Compete and play hard? Have some young guys step up and show what they can do? Seems like Portland did that. I am perfectly fine if they fire him or keep him. I just think the blame game in pro sports is out of control. It’s an easy scapegoat and sure as shit doesn’t always make things better. But I’m ok to give it a shot.
     
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    Really good reserach on this post my friend, thank you! How did you decide when to compare a player to his previous coach vs his coach after Stotts when the player joined us in the middle of his career?

    It seems when Stotts gets players after a few years in the league, they tend to improve under him. Vice versa, when our young guys leave, they get better elsewhere. I would almost conclude that means experience in the league is a better way to determine if a player is likely to improve vs who their coach is. What do you think?

    So saying he's a top 5 coach is out the window as is saying he's a horrible coach, sounds about right to me.
     
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    • Dame is a good passer
    • Nurk is a good passer
    • CJ has shown he can be a good passer (when Dame is out)
    • Wenyen in limited minutes shows good passing ability
    • Melo can pass when he wants to

    .....and I agree. It's about lack of execution. Whose job is it to get players to execute and follow a strategy/scheme? That to me is JOB #1 of a coach.
     
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    To me it's a collective thing ...the whole staff and roster have to do this....but I also believe a players coach coaches and game plans before a game, not during a game...during a game our players are responsible to play the game the right way....Stotts never micro manages a game like Stan Van Gundy or Popovich...Dame is the floor general at gametime....Stotts will review it all after the fact and coach the next practice....he trusts the roster to execute....a lot of fans want a Bobby Knight type coach....I can't stand those guys....the reason I think we have a high character team is the demeanor of the coaching staff and trust between them and players...I"m a fan of our setup. It's not a popular take around here and never has been. I get that..it's how I feel about the team though. Players love Terry because he stays even keeled win or lose...I also never get angry if we lose a game. My biggest stress is that I don't want the team to move out of Portland at this point....everything will change for a long stretch as far as next season and basketball economics go...it's a strange time for sports. I would like to add a serious defensive coordinator to the bench next season...we had a poor defensive season this year
     
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    My guess are the ones who want the Bobby Knight type coach are the same ones who complained about Nate McMillian being to rigid with the team.
     
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    Nate would have never started Wenyen Gabriels in a playoff series.
     
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    Any chance Mike Malone gets canned should Denver loose tonight?
     
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    The immaturity here is disgusting. When a change needs to be made, grow up!

    When I was 3, I might cry if Mommy left me alone with strangers. You guys' fearful emotional clinging make me now look like a rock of strength.

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    I'm sorry you forgot to buy tissue....and need a change...my grandson needed one ten minutes ago. It was fearful and emotional and now looks like a soiled rock of strength!...I like to be thought of as Alpha Man here but I'll let you have the MAN title until you grow into the Alpha staturs! The Blazers are not moving to Seattle....now matter how much you want this...they're not!
     
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    Replace Stotts! Duh!
     
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    So if the coach is coaching a scheme/plan/strategy and the players don't listen or execute, then he is an ineffective coach that the players aren't respecting and again, needs to go.
     
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    that's the popular take but not mine....because I disagree that they don't listen...and think they try to execute and make mistakes...they get outplayed on the court..throw a bad pass..miss a rebound clank shots possession after possession...Stotts just doesn't scream at them for it.......I'm also not uber competitive about sports like some....winning it all isn't necessary for me to really enjoy a season and cheer. It doesn't ever piss me off....refs piss me off. I think we had a great run to get the 8th seed and now we're out of steam and hobbled...firing Stotts won't change that..maybe he gets fired but I won't celebrate that. I like the direction of the team....most forum members don't. I don't get caught up in that angst.
     
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    I can appreciate your love of the team and not having a title as the ultimate goal. Perhaps it is the direction where we differ. To me it has stagnated. Yes, last year we made the conference finals but that had as much to do with Anfernee defying the coach making a lineup he thought would lose and we ended up with the much softer side of the playoff bracket. But look at Denver this post season...that seems like a fluke as well.
     
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    I don't think of Popovich as a micromanager at all. I would classify him as a players' coach but also someone who is knowledgeable and passionate and respected by his players.
     
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    I think he is....you make a mistake you're on the bench under Pop....see Tony Parker...he's mellowed with his last couple seasons so it's more early Pop...he would get really angry..Stotts lets guys play on...Pop probably wasn't the best example....Tom Thibideau would be a better example
     
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    Your right, his critics do like him, he seems like a really good person. It's not like he's some easy guy to hate and that I get some enjoyment out of disliking his coaching, because I dont. I simply see things that I think are an issue that Terry doesnt seem willing or able to fix, that the right coach should be able to. Therefore, I want Terry gone and I want us to go out and find the next Nick Nurse. In the end, I think thatd improve our odds at a championship and that's all I want.
     
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    Most people I see criticizing Stotts aren't casually looking for someone to blame. Most are pointing out very real things happening out on the floor. A lot of the things the point out aren't issues due to a lack of talent or "personnel", but that's the excuse that always gets made up.

    We have the worst personnel for switching but we were switching all bubble. Technique getting through screens is 100% teachable but is something this team has struggled with across the board for years. Our offensive set design isnt excised by "personnel", (and if our personnel is struggling with it, that just tells me it should be adjusted, but it's not). Running screens at halfcourt against the trap with a horrible floor setup behind that isnt a personnel error, it's a coaching one.
     
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    Honestly, if a little micro managing brought us 5 championship rings, I'm guessing we would all be quite fine with it.
     

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