Notice NBPA explores next step toward potentially boycotting games

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  1. Minstrel

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Yeah, it has nothing at all to do with constant exploitation of that continent by colonial powers. It's (almost) entirely because it's a "complicated area." Similarly, there are few black billionaires in this country because they're largely lazy and the ghettos are poor and ravaged by infighting and black-on-black crime. No overt or systemic racism at all--or, if there was any, it's more of a minor factor in a very complicated situation.
     
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    Being a billionaire is rare as fuck for any race, and most that are either inherited wealth, natural resources, or hit the financial nail and built empires, so your putting words in my mouth to make it seem like I’m coming from a racist point of view is very skewed.

    Of course racism has played a major part in Africa’s history and formation but to just deny that lack of education, genocide, and corruption aren’t also major issues is basically putting kid gloves on and blaming the white race for all their issues.

    On to the American issue with lack of black billionaires, that will change within the next few years, or I’d like to hope so. The question I’d like to propose is why does the average black American makes less in America than the average African immigrant? They come here with nothing, but succeed at a higher level, could it possibly be that in America there is a cultural issue that is also holding black Americans back along with racism (as that would effect the African immigrant as well).
     
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    Most immigrants that come here without just crossing the border were relatively well off compared to most of their home country. Just something to take into account.
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    There's a couple things here:

    1. Why is there a lack of education, why is there genocide and corruption? Why is it so much worse than anywhere else? Do you think any of that exploitation has something to do with the native African populations being impoverished and lacking in a lot of infrastructure that benefits them (like education) as opposed to infrastructure that benefited those colonial powers (like diamond mines)?

    2. My other question is--if you're taking the kid gloves off and not "blaming the white race" (and, for the record, I wasn't "blaming the white race," but rather blaming colonial powers, which is a somewhat different thing), what do you ascribe Africa's more general struggles to? Are they just a lesser race? And no, that's not race-baiting, I'm not saying you believe that. I'm trying to cut through vague rhetoric and asking you to take a more direct approach--if you don't think exploitation has a huge effect, how do you explain their much worse position over the past few centuries? Why are they so prone to "infighting and genocide" and so lacking in education? Is it something about them?
     
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    Still my point is, a lot come here, live in the same neighborhoods as many black Americans, have to find jobs, but find success at a higher rate. Why is that? I think it’s fair to say there is a cultural issue that isn’t being addressed.

    There is a disconnect to between black Americans and African immigrants from my notably anecdotal experience (to be fair), my daughters mothers side of the family has said so much wacky shit regarding Africans coming in and taking shit that should be “theirs” including businesses like salons and general stores. I’m always baffled by that, and I’ve had countless uncomfortable conversations with that side of the family (the Farrakhan is a racist line did not go over well lol) I feel those have definitely broadened my mind, made me reflect quite a bit, but also realize the inherent flaws in a lot of thinking of this particular family (Including my own at times). I bet that a lot of black families around America hold those views too though.

    Sorry for the rant.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    What a dumb reply.
     
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    So sure... Lets just go all facebook fake news and throw "Child Rapist" in there because someone told someone else and of course because my friends aunt who doesn't know anything is sure she read it somewhere so it must be true.
    If you can't confirm that? Why did you go there? To make your point? Because why? It's called systemic RACISM bro. Try to figure that out.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    It's a shame this has to be explained.
     
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    Even more so this is a domestic issue. Once there are two people who were once a couple pressing charges against each other you end up with a very messy situation. How many times has he driven that car? Does he make the payments for that car? Was there prior arrangements for him to use that car so he could take his children somewhere? Did the woman involved then change the deal and decide to coerce him into some other deal? What exactly is "touching her sexually without consent"? Can they confirm this? Is she saying he tried to rape her?

    Also why would you say "Seems like not a good dude"? If getting into an altercation with your ex that leads to any kind of charges or restraining order makes you "Not a good dude" then i guess i'm not a good dude.
    Gonna have to change my moniker name to "Not a good dude!" now. Or i can make it easier how about "Bad Man!"
     
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    IF he was a child molester (etc), then I would suspect that white guys (and people of other color) would be getting shot and killed at the same rate by the police. Somehow, I don't think they do.
     
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    Growing up, I had an 'uncle' from Chicago. He was a very high ranking official and on visits to the West coast, would share some of the issues that Chicago struggled with even back then. The crime and violence has increasingly become worse and black people and minorities suffer the most from this. Yet there is so little awareness or outrage for so many and so much outrage for singular horrible events elsewhere.

    This was from an article last year in November.

    "Through the end of October, there have been 2,242 shooting victims and 424 murders in Chicago. Last year, we had 2,462 shooting victims and 478 murders over the same period." https://nypost.com/2019/11/09/chicagos-crime-proves-black-lives-dont-matter-to-democrats/

    Where is the outcry for these poor people weekend after weekend? They are suffering, live in constant fear in parts of the city, and are dying or having their lives torn apart from injury by the thousands. Black lives have always mattered but sadly, there seems to be a very selective reaction to their plight by the media or those in the spotlight.
     
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    I'm not defending the allegations, but it looks like what happened is that the child rapist stuff came from a mix up of state laws. In Rhode Island (and I assume other states that is just the example I read about), the warrants matched up with that of a child crime, in Wisconsin they don't.
    We know though that he was in Wisconsin and had warrants out for his arrest. It doesn't appear like it had anything to do with a child though.
    I can't speak to if that was done purposefully to smear the victim or was simply someone not knowing, I'm sure there will be those who plant a stake on one of those hills.
     
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    I reread the entire thread to see if anyone had made this point. Because isn't this the main point? We live in a country where there is a process in place to deal with criminals. Is anyone be okay with our police being judge, jury, and executioner with NO due process? Because that is what keeps happening disproportionally when they encounter black men.

    I think it is safe to say the majority people being placed under arrest are not role models. But is it really about if you'd trust George Floyd with your wallet or Jacob Blake to be your babysitter? Those are character assessments. Why do people keep saying these things unless they are said as an aside? I find it offensive that people act like this information is even pertinent.
     
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    Yeah, but there are zero billionaires in my home :sigh:
     
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    I'm a minority so I can say these things. As an evil white, you aren't allowed to.
     
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    When does the cops safety come into play? When is it more than just committing a crime but open defiance of requested obedience by law enforcement? When does it go from a cop killing to a cop defending him self in a way that prevents the accused of reaching for a deadly weapon?

    IM asking honestly. Should the cops be forced to wait until thew accused has a weapon turned on them? Of which case puts the cops life in danger? When is it acceptable for cops to take preventive measures that prevent their life form being put in a life and death situation?

    IM honestly asking, not saying what is right and what is wrong. I just think that is is not good to set a clear definition, or it will always be grey and confusing to both law enforcement officials and the public.

    Now I know each incident is its own situation, but it seems like no matter the situation, the cops are wrong for pulling a trigger, even when they feel the life is threatened. So when IS it acceptable for a cop to use deadly force in order to prevent himself room becoming dead?

    When is the responsibility of this victim held accountable for forcing the decision on the officer rather than simply being compliant?

    Officers are being put in a no win situation and im sorry, but IF I was this cop, I could see how he thought it was him or the victim, the moment he started getting in the car and reaching, so I personally feel a shot was acceptable. Not 7. It was way overkill, However I do not think the cop was wrong in puling the trigger the first time. He has the right and needs to be able to defend himself from a disobedient law breaker.

    I mean really in today's world, I ask again , ,where is the common sense in not following the requests of the officers with all thats going on? How can anyone rationalize this victim not being obedient? If cops are not trusted, the last thing I would want ot do is be non compliant, giving the cops an option.


    This must be talked about or racism will never end. All parties must be held accountable.
     
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    I guess standing up for thugs only lasts one day (although if the criminals were causing havoc around their mansions and gated communities they might have a different attitude all together). At least they still get to keep the Marxist propaganda all over the place and cater to communists halfway across the globe. We need more politics in sports. One thing we can't have is a place where everyone of all races can come together and enjoy some leisure time and fun.
     
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    Wow, someone speaks fluent Tucker Carlson
     
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