What I meant was, when I searched last night, I was in the "News" function, and the same sputnik website showed up (when using the News search, I usually use the Tiils function, as well, and search by date.) When I recreated it this morning as to demonstrate to you, I was actually in the "All" section as you pointed out. The point is, sputnik showed up in both relative searches. Anyway, thoughts on my BLM ideas?
I think telling black people what they should do will lead to dismissing what they are doing if they don't follow it. I think it's better to listen to what they are saying and then engage them in conversation about that. As I have said multiple times, all I feel personally comfortable with is reading their sites and then judging what they are proposing based on that. I don't think that judging them based on the interpretations is fair. And again, like I said multiple times. I do not agree with everything proposed in the BLM's websites. But I think that is the best place to start a debate and discussion on if what they're proposing is something that I support. If we wanted to have a discussion about Jesus, is it fair to base the discussion on what the Church of Satan thinks about him or a extreme Christian sect or what the bible says about him? I would start with the bible first. Then introduce conflicting or disagreeing opinions. I wouldn't start with the disagreeing or negative sources first. That wouldn't be fair no matter what my personal feelings about Jesus were.
Personally, I thought they were plausible, productive, and positive ideas. Not a white man telling a black man what to do. That said, I think there are plenty of solutions-based black leaders who would entertain ideas from ALL sides, so long as it's genuine, constructive and steering towards a redemptive outcome. But, hey, thanks for your thoughts.
It's probably not good idea to tell someone else how they should be dealing with situations, especially if you are refusing to listen to what they're saying/doing BECAUSE you think they should be doing it a different way.
i have to play devils advocate here, aNd again im not condoning shooting seven times, but isnt everyone telling cops how they should handle themselves in a life and death situation by most people who have never been in a life and death situation? And those peolple seem to be dismissing the cops were called out there, the victim resisted arrest, and tried to draw a deadly weapon? How is that different than what you just said?
I'm not saying your ideas don't have merit or value. I am saying that unless you find a way to share them and have them enacted it we will not able to have a productive discussion and/or debate about them. I see this type of thought all the time on the Blazer side of things. "Here are my ideas on what the Blazers should do." "OMG, Stotts won't do what I said they should do, Stotts sucks!" But I also see people complain about Stotts based on stats and ingame strategy and play calling. I think that is fair. It's important to judge people on what they have done.
You may "think" I'm not listening. But, how would be able to ascertain that from a message board just because I may not be responding in earnest to some of Sly's pleas? Meanwhile, the violence continues. I was tossing around in bed this morning and these ideas popped into my head. I was thinking, "what could be done to try and take us beyond what we're dealing with today?" Sure, it was from a perspective of what if I were the head of BLM. But, really, that doesn't matter. It was a form of writing. I would NEVER be the person to do this....and EVERYONE knows it. Or, should know it. I plan to share these thoughts and ideas with others as I believe they have true merit, not to simply be discarded because I'm some privileged, ignorant white boy: If I Ran Black Lives Matter I would: 1) Place booths in conspicuous places in each of our major cities, and especially in each of the hot spot cites 2) Staff each of the booths with trained volunteers who would enthusiastically and empathetically engage with the people - taking responses, complaints, offered solutions, and the like. The staff would capture each of the responses then send those back up through the BLM internal channels. Perhaps, fundraising efforts, as well 3) Give out printed matter in the booths that relate the BLM history, mission, and any other pertinent information related to current situations at hand. These printed pieces should be presented as a solutions-based packet....not gripes and complaints 4) Set-up a Hot Line whereas people can call in or send voicemails and share what's on their collective minds. Capture all information and send back up through the channels 5) Invite myself and selected staff to the news outlets as to: share our ongoing mission; report comments/concerns/questions from the booths/hotline; while also sharing our concerns and responses as an organization 6) Continue to make presence on the talk shows, etc. as to provide an ongoing "face" to our organization while providing continued feedback as to how we are continuing to respond to the issues at hand 7) If possible, speak on the house floor and garner support from any and all interested parties. Work to lock arms with any one or more of them towards getting bills sponsored and the like
I'll post up a youtube once I've completed the Facebook interview with Karen Robinson (Sanford Robinson's wife. @THE HCP knows Sanford very well.) We'll be having some significant and poignant discussions surrounding race, reconciliation, and redemption. Karen will be interviewing my wife and myself. Much looking forward to this.
So to prove to me you ARE listening, you then prove it by doing exactly what I said shows you don't listen.
Well, since they handle themselves in a "life and death" situation differently based on the color of the people who they're dealing with, maybe they should practice the routine that they follow of the one that results in a lower % of shots fired/people killed. I think people are concerned about the different reactions they have for different people.
I agree 100%, it's uncharted territory. Still, I have this feeling that if I could only think deeply enough I could figure it out. Alas, I'm just not intelligent enough, even with my massive brain.
No, that's not what I'm telling you. You are free to have your own ideas. Just you need to realize that having some perspective helps. As in, how would you feel if someone who has never experienced what it's like to be a Blazer fan, came in and told you how you should feel about things related to the Blazers? Or how you should really go about being a fan, starting with no longer hating the Lakers or the Rockets? And even after they've been told that they don't have the first hand knowledge of what it's like to be a Blazer fan, like why we hate the Lakers or Rockets, they still tell you that you need to embrace their way they are a fan of another team (which isn't even in the same league). Then after you tell them why what they say doesn't seem to make any sense, they insist on telling you it anyways? And they're almost indignant that you aren't taking their advice, and are baffled that you seem to keep telling them their advice is unnecessary and doesn't really work. Because that's kind of what you're doing with the BLM movement.
No, king Lanny declares that you must use my ideas. On rare instances you may use the vice king's ideas. Now, you may kiss my ring.
OK, but look....I have a hankering to begin implementing some of my ideas on my own. Nobody says is has to be linked to BLM in any way. I mean, wouldn't it be great if booths were set up in ground-zero areas, staffed with Blacks and Whites (and others?) alike...fielding questions and concerns from bystanders and anyone else who might want to drop by. Then, begin to see their questions, concerns, and suggestions being aired on television. This, in addition to comments coming in on the hotline. Sure, it might take a little time, but I believe if people began to see folks working TOGETHER to help implement healing and change, momentum could be built that way. Overcoming these protests with love and concern is the path to redemption in my estimation. From there, take that message to Washington and begin to get things done there. It has to start SOMEWHERE, though. Simply mandating new laws, etc., is a semi-backwards approach. Sure, they're needed, but let's get a little meat on the bone before trotting out new laws just for the sake of trotting out new laws.
Your idea comes from a dream world where the people in the booth would be objective and constructive. I'm assuming that the protestors need to let off steam as well as ignite political pressure to get their ideas implemented. They don't do this by holding intellectual discussions when their hormones are overflowing. I'd say, let the police make sure that there's no violence and minimal public disruption. Some things are going to have to be let go. e.g. spray painting graffiti, walking down streets, blocking off non critical streets, minor altercations, throwing fireworks, perhaps ignoring the occasional water bottle by having the police wear helmets plus body armor and then so on.
That's probably how this should have started. It has never been simply mandating new laws, etc. And no one has suggested that it simply be that either.
