fair enough. I just don't put people on ignore because i like to treat each days as a new day on here, among other things. But ill refrain from replying...
That would justify shooting a great number of unarmed people. I had a cop pull a gun on me once. I was reaching for something, and he wasn't sure what. He made a life and death decision, I guess, and decided not to shoot me. But then, I'm white. I was reaching for my wallet, which wasn't in my pants at the time, so that I could give him my drivers license. I disagree (based on what little I know of the Blake incident) that he 'forced' the cop to decide to shoot him. The cop decided that all on his own, whether due to stupidity, fear, poor training, racism, or whatever. barfo
@ABM it's this exact situation that BLM is talking about and proposing legislation about and in some areas passing legislation. I can't help but think that when it comes to BLM these are the discussions that we need to be having. Not whether BLM is operating in a way you think they should. These are real topics, real problems, and real proposed solutions. Should the police be allowed to investigate themselves, determine if the actions were right or wrong, and if wrong issue punishment but not have to disclose that punishment to the public? What are the better solutions or procedures for that?
were you previously in a scuffle with the officer and resisting arrest? If not the. I would say you didn't represent near a life or death situation and its different. Each case is different and should be examined on their own.
Not to butt in, but thats legit -- if I'm reading it right -- what the last part of his message was about.
Sure, each case is a little different. So? A big part of the job of a cop is to figure out what the situation is and act appropriately, not just kill people whenever there is some uncertainty. barfo
Who said that? Not me. I'm saying both sides should be discussed. If you want to turn a blind eye to the other side, that's your choice. I'm not gonna do it though.
I was a police officer in the Army for 5 years. There was no need for 7 shots to be fired in that man’s back.
Who said what I bolded above. And some wrongs to be discussed on both sides. That's all i've been saying.
You pretty much did say that, actually. You said that the cop was 'forced' to make a life and death decision. But literally any interaction with a citizen could end up with the citizen being shot in the back, if that's a sufficient excuse. Of course 'both sides' acted badly, but only one side shot the other in the back 7 times. barfo
I do. I think it was part poor training part legit fear brought on by having lost a scuffle with a man resisting arrest, then going to his car to grab something. I don't see how anyone could think it wrong of the officer at that point not to assume he is going for a weapon. DO you think he was going for some chewing gun? a white Flag? I mean we must use common sense, just like its common sense that the cop didn't have to shoot 7 times. But what happened first? The victim resisting arrest and based on the timeline, the shooting never would have happened if the victim would not have been disobedient. And that's a fact based on the timeline. To not hold the victim part responsible is just not equal justice. Yes, the cop could and should have avoided shooting seven times, but the victim could and should have avoided getting shot all together based on the cops having guns drawn and not pulling the trigger to begin with, if he would have just not resisted. Anyone not admitting this is not being fair.
I'll provide links, apparently that police department didn't have them at all. They had planned to start purchasing them in 2022 from what I read, the legislation was passed in 2017 and ran into some political issues or something. Seemed super dumb, they should have body cams, not having them leads to more stupid stuff. Even crazier is if the officers have done nothing wrong the body cams are actually good for them, so I don't understand why anyone fight against having body cams other than they want to abuse the lack of accountability. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ody-cameras-years-before-shooting/5630766002/ https://www.chicagotribune.com/nati...0200825-6c2w2tochnfwvfwqkmahbu3tsa-story.html I did read that because of this incident they are moving up buying them to early next year so I guess that's good... https://journaltimes.com/news/local...cle_374ccc4d-8f9f-5aef-876f-c731e3d41baf.html
