Politics Republican Voters Against Trump

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by kjironman1, Sep 11, 2020.

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Are you a Republican? If so will you be voting for Trump?

  1. Yes

  2. No

  3. I'm a Democrat and voting for Trump!

  4. I'm a Democrat voting for Biden

  5. I'm a Republican voting for Biden!

  6. I'm a Republican/Democrat and not voting for Trump but i won't vote for Biden either!

  7. I'm an Independent and I am voting for Trump!

  8. I'm an Independent and I am voting for Biden!

  9. I am other (green, libertarian etc) and I am voting for Trump

  10. I am other (green, libertarian etc) and I am voting for Biden

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  1. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    Ive noticed this week that there are several missing from the forum?
     
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  2. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I think there is only 10 options, and they are full. and @kjironman1 , I don't think mods can change it from public to private, so that shouldn't be an issue. (maybe Sly can change it, but I don't think we can. I know I won't)
     
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  3. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    I think they should blow both parties up and open it up.
     
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  4. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    In light of a bunch of recent events, I'm still in the evaluation process.
     
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  5. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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    So you post this-
    And expect people to interpret it as-
    and then you want to say-
    But you think-
    Sure. That makes a bunch on sense. Even more so when you asked-
    This is exactly what i meant when i said you would try to split hairs and eventually try to defend this man. Try to keep up here.
    Trump is an incompetent ass. Republicans everywhere can see this. Many are starting to change their mind and actually change their vote.
    That is the point here. Do not continue to try and muddy the waters. It isn't going to work.

    Have a nice day.
     
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    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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    Vote your heart. Don't listen to left or right. Just go with right and wrong. That is all anyone can ask of you.
     
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  7. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Yesterday he is defending attacks on Jewish people

    Now he is attacking veterans
     
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    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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    A bunch of us think this way. Why not eliminate parties altogether?
     
  9. jonnyboy

    jonnyboy Well-Known Member

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    I asked if you were a founding member sarcastically. I’m actually floored I’m still trying to explain such a basic comment to you. I may not be right or wrong about the comment itself, but the premise was extremely basic nonetheless. And somehow you are still confused.

    About the group or club or whatever it is -

    Hating Trump is all fine and dandy. Plenty of groups out there doing it. I’m not hugely bothered by it as long as they aren’t flipping over people’s dinner tables or lighting things on fire. I even sympathize with Republicans who are extremely disappointed with the party.

    The part where I have to call BS is where they start fawning over Biden and suggesting people vote for him. I personally just see an establishment movement trying desperately to keep their military industrial complex chugging along. Biden is establishment to the core and it’s sad to me that the “comfort zone” for people in this country is more war, no healthcare and a 5-7 year cycle of falsely building up the economy then driving off a cliff and taking just a little more from the working people each time.
     
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    Propagandist Well-Known Member

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    Charlie Brown’s teacher ^^^^
     
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    jonnyboy Well-Known Member

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    Oh fuck me.

    Seriously? I can’t have a discussion with someone in a certain “group” without it being an “attack”on whatever group they may be a part of??

    You make it sound like I was cheering on someone beating up a Jewish person!

    I didn’t even fucking know kj was a vet! I was simply arguing with him and I NEVER ONCE BROUGHT UP HIS VETERAN STATUS!!

    You are framing this in an EXTREMELY unfair and irrational way!

    Really uncalled for coming from a supposed moderator.

    And extremely offensive and irresponsible to accuse someone of defending “attacks” on Jewish people and “attacking veterans” based on such loose context.

    Total fucking bullshit!
     
  12. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Let me guess what’s next.....the mods are biased?
     
  13. riverman

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    Pay them military E1 wages and I agree with getting rid of the two party divorce court we're saddled with...to me if you want to work for the govt you should be a member of the United States ..they should take the job with a set of tasks to perform and work...less talk...more walk and to run for president you must first qualify by passing a very difficult test of diverse subjects such as the constitution and world history. I'd actually rather have a diverse council of leaders than a president...
     
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    Ask @kjironman1 if I was going out of my way to “attack a veteran”. Most of us can distinguish having a discussion with “attacking” said person because they belong to (insert group here).

    Such horseshit.

    I’m allowed to have a discussion, or even an argument for that matter, with any person from any group. I’m not holding my tongue for anyone and I don’t care what color mine or their skin is or what groups they claim.

    @Chris Craig took a cheap shot right there.
     
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    I know you like to see yourself in a neutral light but you don't post that way...you have a definite anti liberal stance and yet...if your opinions are not popular, that's everyone you think is full of shit saying what they feel....not holding their tongues....in other words...your bullshit is no different than what you think my bullshit is....it's why political discussion derail into dichotomies...your claims put you smack dab into a "group" just like your complaints about people having groups. This old...people who don't like Trump are sheeple shit is not leading to good conversations ...and admit it dude....you are all about having an argument here and it's always with anti Trump folks....who by the way are all free thinking individuals who also don't need to hold their tongue...situation, problem, process, solution.....don't stop at the problem and stay there....what would you do to fix shit? I'm not sure I've gotten a clear idea about what you see as good government
     
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    My man. I just said this to my father and he looked at me like I'd lost it--the council part, that is. A spokesperson is fine, but this pseudo-king business, enough already. I've brought this up before, but the current political landscape seems to be a byproduct of this disdain for intellectuals in much of America, ie a good many Americans seem to be pro-stupid. It's made us a laughingstock internationally. I'd be down for bright, educated leaders.
     
  17. Chris Craig

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    There was no cheap shot. I see your antics and called you on it.

    You laughed at a former Republican congressman who was a veteran and is now part of an organization against Trump.

    You then continued to question the integrity of @kjironman1 after he announced he was a veteran and part of the group because he served in a war you dont agree with. You used negative aspects of that war to keep questioning him.

    That too me is attacking veterans
     
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  18. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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    Well at least every time you comment you bump the thread. I'll give you that.
     
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    I don’t claim to have all the answers and I don’t see many here who do. I don’t expect them to either. People can group me into whatever categories they like politically, it’s fine, I’m used to it at this point. I more or less take it in stride at this point and play devils advocate to try and jerk people out of their comfort zones. I’ll admit that. This place can be somewhat of a bubble at times and I don’t mind trying to pop it once in awhile. I don’t insult people on here at a personal level. I may have opinions they don’t like, and raise inconvenient questions on purpose, but I DO NOT attack people simply because of who they are. Getting accused of “defending attack on a Jewish person” or “attacking a veteran” is over the top and taken out of context. It isn’t an attack on ones being to engage them on an unrelated subject. It pissed me off to read that because that’s NOT who I am, and I haven’t acted in a way to warrant such a heavy accusation.
     
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    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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    The answer is to vote the IDIOT out of office!
    Yeah most on here have that answer sewn up my man.
     
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