Why are people so down on the Richardson to Charlotte trade?

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  1. BrewCityBuck

    BrewCityBuck The guy with 17,000 Posts.

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    So many people don't like it. I just heard some NBA guy on the radio saying he didn't like it. I think the trade was perfect for Charlotte. Charlotte wants to start winning, to take that next step they needed a 20ppg perimeter guy. We all know Brandan Wright has more potential, but like I said, the Bobcats don't have more time to wait around. People say that his contract is terrible and whatnot. 2007 - $11 2008 - $12 2009 - $13 2010 - $14 How is that a bad contract? Especially on a team with hardly any longterm contracts, not to mention Richardson will still be in his prime by the end of the deal. If they had not traded the pick, they would still be a bottom dweller, now that they made the trade they have taken a step up. I just don't get it.
     
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    No one likes it because the Stephen A dissed this trade on draft night. People just believe whatever those guys say.I think it was a great trade. Plus it's not like Cats didn't have the salary cap to have Richardson
     
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    Yeah, it was a good trade. The Bobcats really didn't have a first option on their team last year. Gerald Wallace is great at driving, being aggressive, and scoring inside, but he can't shoot the ball either. He's the only 1st option wing player I can think of who cannot shoot it from the perimiter. Emeka is strong as a bull, and he's able to back down his defenders, and score on breaks too...but he doesn't have good touch from inside either...Adam Morrison is a chucker who takes way too many ill advised shots on the perimiter, and off the dribble. They needed an athlete/shooter who is a legitimate 20 ppg scorer and first option. I don't think they are a playoff team just yet, but I think in two years they will be.They already have young, talented players. If they are ever going to take the next step, they need some veteran guys who can flat out play...No use waiting around for yet another young guy to develop when you've got plenty of young talent on your team.
     
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    I like that trade better than the Celtics Trade...
     
  5. BrewCityBuck

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LAZY @ Jul 20 2007, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No one likes it because the Stephen A dissed this trade on draft night. People just believe whatever t</div> Stephen A. Smith was awful, first bashing the Richardson trade and then making false accusations that Larry Harris had never even watched Yi Jianlian once... :no1: Why didn't Smith like the Richardson trade? I don't remember.
     
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    I think he said that he wont fit in good. He said Richardson wasn't worth the money he was getting. I thought it was a good deal for Charlotte. They weren't going to get better if they didn't do something. He thought that because of the playoffs he was gettin more than he deserved, he is in fact a very good player when he isn't injured.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jul 20 2007, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why didn't Smith like the Richardson trade? I don't remember.</div>I don't think Smith himself even remembers, lol
     
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    BrewCityBuck The guy with 17,000 Posts.

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    For a player like Richardson, $12-$13 million is a good contract. I don't know what all these media goons are talking about.
     
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    I don't like it for Charlotte because they lost any cap room they had and really don't get that much incredibly better. They're still the same team with a second-tier star who isn't a leader.
     
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    And his offense won't help them at all? They are not the same team. They are not going to be a bad team in this league anymore.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Jul 20 2007, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't like it for Charlotte because they lost any cap room they had and really don't get that much incredibly better. They're still the same team with a second-tier star who isn't a leader.</div> What would they have used the cap money on anyway? Getting exactly what they needed this offseason for only $12 million a year sounds good to me. Felton Richardson Wallace May Okafor Carroll Dudley Morrison Brezec Hermann If the Bobcats stay healthy, they should be a playoff team.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 20 2007, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, it was a good trade. The Bobcats really didn't have a first option on their team last year. Gerald Wallace is great at driving, being aggressive, and scoring inside, but he can't shoot the ball either. He's the only 1st option wing player I can think of who cannot shoot it from the perimiter. Emeka is strong as a bull, and he's able to back down his defenders, and score on breaks too...but he doesn't have good touch from inside either...</div>There are other 1st option perimeter players that can't shoot from the outside. Dwayne Wade for exapmle, took less three pointers this year than Wallace, and shot a worse percentage than what Wallace shot from three point range. So there <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Adam Morrison is a chucker who takes way too many ill advised shots on the perimiter, and off the dribble. They needed an athlete/shooter who is a legitimate 20 ppg scorer and first option. I don't think they are a playoff team just yet, but I think in two years they will be.</div>That is false, and not even true. Don't know which games you was watching, but Adam Morrison was not just a chucker. Sure he took the occasional ill advised shot, but for the most part he took pretty good shots when he was open. Considering he was brought in as a rookie, and just thrown in to be the leading scorer of the team to begin with, he was going to be taking more shots than everyone else on the team to start with. He was definately not a chucker.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Jul 20 2007, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There are other 1st option perimeter players that can't shoot from the outside. Dwayne Wade for exapmle, took less three pointers this year than Wallace, and shot a worse percentage than what Wallace shot from three point range. So there That is false, and not even true. Don't know which games you was watching, but Adam Morrison was not just a chucker. Sure he took the occasional ill advised shot, but for the most part he took pretty good shots when he was open. Considering he was brought in as a rookie, and just thrown in to be the leading scorer of the team to begin with, he was going to be taking more shots than everyone else on the team to start with. He was definately not a chucker.</div>Yeah, but Dwyane Wade can also hit midrange shots consistently. Gerald Wallace can not.I've seen Adam play, and he takes alot of contested shots off the dribble, and whenever he is open, he usually chucks up a three, even if it's not a good shot for the offense at that time.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 20 2007, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, but Dwyane Wade can also hit midrange shots consistently. Gerald Wallace can not.I've seen Adam play, and he takes alot of contested shots off the dribble, and whenever he is open, he usually chucks up a three, even if it's not a good shot for the offense at that time.</div>Gerald Wallace can hit the mid-range shot also, he doesn't score everyone of his points from right next to the basket. He might not be able to hit the mid range shot as much as Dwayne Wade, Carmelo Anthony, or Richard Hamilton, but he is still able to hit that shot with some decency. He isn't just a drive all the way to the basket and score every point kind of person.As for Morrison, everyone is going to shoot contested jumpers every now and again. All of the 1st options, which he was to begin the season, are going to shoot with hands in their face from time to time. He didn't just chuck every time he touched the ball, and he passed the ball quite a bit when he didn't have a good scoring chance. As for shooting a 3 ball when he is open, if he's wide open, that's always the right time to shoot a three. Sure it might be early in the shot clock, or the offensive rebounders are not in position, but in the NBA there is usually only at most one offensive rebounder that can actually get position for an offensive rebound anyways. If it's early in the shot clock, it's still a wide open three, so it's worth taking if wide open. He wasn't the big chucker that you are painting him out to be.
     
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    I like the trade for the Bobcats, they finally got a legit scoring option at the SG spot (a huge upgrade over Matt Carroll). They gave up possibly a top five talent in the draft, but if they want to win now, I understand the move completely. It wasn't that bad for GS, either, they free up some cap room to re-sign their most important players (Davis, Jackson, etc). Plus, they have a nice future, as well: Monta Ellis, Andris Biendris, Marco Belinelli, Brandan Wright, and Patrick O'Bryant (who I think could still become a very serviceable center in the NBA).
     
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    <span style="font-family:Tahoma">I totally disliked it at 1st, but after thinking about it, it was a pretty good move. They don't really need Wright seeing as they have Emeka Okafo and Wallace as their bigs, and they needed a scorer like Richardson. They got a pretty good team right now, I'll have to see how the deal actually pans out next season to bash on the move. </span>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CavsRules @ Jul 20 2007, 11:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-family:Tahoma">I totally disliked it at 1st, but after thinking about it, it was a pretty good move. They don't really need Wright seeing as they have Emeka Okafo and Wallace as their bigs, and they needed a scorer like Richardson. They got a pretty good team right now, I'll have to see how the deal actually pans out next season to bash on the move. </span></div> Gerald Wallace isn't really a big, but like Shawn Marion likes to play inside at times, so I get what your saying. Not only do they have Okafor, but Sean May, when healthy is one of the most underrated young PF's in the league, not to mention Brezec/Herrmann off the bench are a good duo.
     
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    I agree with bcb, I think this was a pretty good trade for charlotte. they finally got the scorer they need on the perimeter. I mean, they already have Emeka Okafor, Sean May, Primo Brezec. not to say those last two are anything too special, but they're decent. Now they have an effective slasher who can be their #1 option everynight, something they've definitely been missing. Now they have a reliable scoring option. If JRich can stay healthy, they could make a biig jump.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jul 21 2007, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Gerald Wallace isn't really a big, but like Shawn Marion likes to play inside at times, so I get what your saying. Not only do they have Okafor, but Sean May, when healthy is one of the most underrated young PF's in the league, not to mention Brezec/Herrmann off the bench are a good duo.</div><span style="font-family:Tahoma">I keep on forgetting about May. Hes a good power forward, but is dealing with being hurt to often. I agree, if he is healthy, he can give the Bobcats a lot.</span>
     
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    Because it WAS a bad trade. He's not exactly a superstar player that can carry a team. And he hasn't been very durable this past year. I think he's worn out. Richardson isn't that leader-type player they need. And look at the players they already have that play the same positions:Adam MorrisonGerald WallaceMatt CarollOne guy's gonna have to be bumped out of the rotation or not get significant minutes. Not having any better choices in the free agency market or trade block isn't a good enough reason to trade for a player. Despite being a very talented player, Richardson hasn't shown he can be a team's franchise player. How many times in his 6-year stint with the Warriors did Richardson make the playoffs? Once. And he was hurt almost 40% of the year. I just don't trust his track record. You can blame it on teammates, coaching staff, GMs but if he was a franchise player he'd get it done. Baron Davis, he's a franchise player.
     

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