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  1. Rastapopoulos

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    I think having T-Rex arms hampers your defense but might actually be a plus on offense, at least in terms of quick and repeatable release. Roy had fairly short arms, as I recall.
     
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    it might help to deflect a pass every once in a while but good defense isn't played with the fingers. It's played with the hips, feet, and eyes. Anticipation, reaction, reflex, lateral mobility, vision, intensity, bbiq...all those are much more important than wingspan. Sure, a long wingspan can occasionally help when a player is beat off the dribble; but if he has those other attributes, he won't often be beat off the dribble. In other words, if has has those attributes and combines it with good wingspan, that's great. But just wingspan alone won't do shit
     
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    I agree with you on the whole. I think where long arms are usually imperative is blocks and steals. Although Zach gets a lot of blocks with a mediocre wingspan, so...
     
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    God don’t ever mention that weak ass player with Herro
     
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    The greatest thing that could happen for this NBA season is to see Myers Leonard win a title. It would also be awesome if he had one of his out-of-body 30 point games in the finals. Go MyLe.
     
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    I’m not a stat guy when it comes to usage rates and PER, but these numbers tell me he is still bringing it..... Surely you see that?
     
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    6'8" for Roy. The idea that a players length isn't important especially on defense is ludicrous. When you look at all of the best defenders, they all have serious wingspans, seriously look it up I'm not making this up. Lateral quickness is mentioned as being important and I think after bbiq it's one of the most important qualities in a defender but if it is, why wouldn't lateral length? It makes it so that before we even take into consideration movement, the player is covering more ground. We know that the consensus is that height is an advantage in basketball but is it really? Isn't the real advantage and metric that matters wingspan/standing reach? I don't understand why you can't wrap your head around this one, you're definitely on the wrong side of this argument but don't take my word for it do an exercise, find a list of great defenders with small wingspans maybe even try to find them with wingspans 6'3" and below.
     
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    Are we not getting exit interviews from Neil/Terry/etc this year?
     
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    Zach has a well above average reach for his length though (9'3"), quick off his feet and elevates well out of a back pedal.
     
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    It doesn't look like it. Brooke landing that interview with Dame a couple of days ago makes me feel like the team hasn't made plans yet to have exit interviews. It makes sense I guess with the times we're in and the uncertainty that that causes in labor relations, I doubt Neil really wants anyone talking about the future when no one knows what it's going to look like. It's hard to spin things when there's no axis.
     
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    Herro's wingspan and lack of strength hurts his defense for sure.

    But he has an average reach for his height (8'4"), he's smart, moves well, quick reactor, anticipates and will get on the defensive glass.

    Probably maxes out as a slight positive on D, which is a little better than I thought when he came out. Has gotten in better shape since Kentucky and actually looks ok guarding 1's
     
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    Maybe because there is big change coming and want to wait for new?
     
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    I have "wrapped my head around it".

    what I said was that anticipation, reaction & reflex, lateral mobility, vision, bbiq, and intensity were all more important factors than wingspan. I'd add strength to that list as well. I could add focus but that's probably a component of both vision and bbiq. I mean, why isn't CJ a better defender than Chris Paul; his wingspan is 2" longer?

    so yeah, I think people overrate wingspan
     
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    Man I just can't see that sitting very well with players. It just shows you that all of this talk by the league about social justice reform is lip service meant to pander to and placate the players.
     
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    I have to say that really feeds my fear (paranoia?) that the owners are planning to use Covid as an excuse for a work stoppage/union busting campaign.
     
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    rasta's red/blue chart would indicate the owners have a "right to work" over union preference in their other businesses if the donations are an indication. (sorry, better for the OT)
     
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    I don't think that you are paranoid at all. The owners are going to rip up the CBA, I think that is a given. Then they will use the uncertainty of the future and the certainty that the league will lose money this season and next to try and screw the players as bad as they can. I don't think the players are going to be down with that at all. I've talked before about how when the league does terminate the CBA due to the force majeure clause the current CBA mandates that the league immediately engages the NBAPA in good faith negotiations for a new CBA. If the players feel like they're being screwed and the NBA won't budge there will be a lockout that being said if it's found that the league is acting in bad faith the players can litigate for full payment of their guaranteed contracts. I think eventually they'll come to an agreement but it likely won't be until the league can get back on track with full revenue, meaning full capacity crowds. I honestly think we'll miss an entire season. Right now they're saying some time in January but they keep pushing it back and that's before all of this negotiating has even started. It's going to be a real clusterfuck. These players with guaranteed contracts are not going to want to take a pay cut, many of them lavishly live paycheck to paycheck. It's a mess right now and it's going to get worse.
     
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