OT Black Man In Minnesota Dies After Cop Kneels On His Neck/ Portland Riots

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  1. ehizzy3

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    when they release the case file we can discuss the facts. Until then keep licking the boots and have a nice day
     
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    Sheesh. You too.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    "ehizzyFIT"!
    That is fantastic!
     
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    How the fuck is that any different from cops shooting Breonna and justifying her murder as collateral damage?
     
    illmatic99, Sep 24, 2020
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    Just learned those recklessness charges? Only charged cop with shots that went through walls of Breonna Taylor' s white neighbors, not shots that went through walls of Black neighbors. Whose lives matter?
     
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    1. Police with a legal search warrant enter an apartment and are shot at, with one officer being hit in the leg. They legally return fire to protect themselves.

    2. Angry rioters throw Molotov cocktails and shoot at police who are not threatening them in anyway.

    Yeah, it was stupid police work, but legally done, at least as far as we know based on the AG’s statement. Nothing legal or even righteous about mob attacks.
     
    e_blazer, Sep 24, 2020
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    Search warrant was based on a lie. Cops got judge to sign warrant claiming post office said Breonna Taylor had been receiving suspicious packages. Post office never said that.

    Attorney is asking for grand jury transcripts because we don't know what attorney general told them. But fact is attorneys general nearly always get grand juries to render verdict they want.

    Her boyfriend fired a shot because his home had been broken into. But cops didn't shoot him. They fired wildly and killed an innocent third party.

    I mean, you're a decent person, and you are twisting yourself in knots trying to claim killing a sleeping woman was legal.
     
    crandc, Sep 24, 2020
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  9. illmatic99

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    LEGAL to kill a sleeping person now. As long as you're a cop.

    got it.
     
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    She wasn't asleep when she was shot.
     
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    I want to see a copy of the warranty because a No Knock is used for very dangerous criminals. Even if there was one package sent to her home last January I still don't see how you get to very dangerous criminal status.

    If the police were that afraid of her they could have taken her into custody when she was at her job.... being a paramedic.
     
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    "Legal experts on Thursday said the Taylor case reveals an unresolved conflict in the law. A police tactic meant to keep officers safer — raiding homes late at night, giving occupants little or no warning — can conflict with “castle doctrine” laws meant to keep homeowners safe by giving them leeway to use deadly force against intruders."​

    This is what I'm talking about. This tactic should never have been used in this situation. This lady was not a threat to the officers. This home was not an active hub of dangerous criminal activity. A package was sent there in January addressed to an old boyfriend. The package could have had the marijuanas in it, nuclear weapons, or comic books. Not knowing what was in a one time package sent 6 months earlier does not equal a no knock warrant.

    If the cops don't lie or exaggerate to a judge none of this happens.
     
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    After Taylor’s death, Louisville banned no-knock warrants and passed a law requiring police to wear body cameras while serving warrants.

    Taylor’s death is one of a string of cases where gunfire occurred during the execution of “no-knock” warrants. In Houston last year, two people were killed and five police officers injured during a no-knock raid on a home. No drugs were found, and police said that the search warrant had been based on false information provided by an officer.

    Many police chiefs have begun to recognize the dangerous conflict that exists between castle-doctrine laws and no-knock warrants — and to sharply reduce the use of those warrants, said Chuck Wexler of the nonprofit Police Executive Research Forum. Except in extreme circumstances, officers have other options, Wexler said. For one, they could simply wait for their subject to leave the house.

    “Police chiefs are asking themselves, ‘Is it worth it?’ And the answer is no,” Wexler said. “There’s so much risk involved, and there’s another way to accomplish the same thing.”    ​
     
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    The militarization of the police isn't just equipment, it's an attitude and at times it does feel like the police are at war with the community they are sworn to protect.
     
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    Why did the city settle for $12 million if there was nothing wrong with her shooting?
     
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    So they wouldn't have to go through discovery.
     
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    She was not sleeping. She was standing in the hallway as her boyfriend shot at the police.
     
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    Nonsense. I have said before that I think the police methods sucked. I would fire every one of them. That said, unless there are some facts that have been inaccurately reported by the AG, the police had a legal search warrant. They had the right to enter the apartment. The boyfriend shooting his gun at them gives police legal right to return fire.
     
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    What do police expect when they barge into an apartment if the occupant has the legal right to own a firearm? This wasn’t well thought out. Like “hey guys, so we can go right in but some people legally own guns for this very reason - an intruder - what if he shoots at us?”
     
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