Well me and Nitro1118 have been arguing about this enough lol... time for the rest of you to get in on this...This isnt asking who is better overall... It is to decide who is more of an offensive threat right now... so basically were looking at scoring/shooting etc...
I feel like such a bad Wizards fan for saying this, but T-mac is the better player. He's a dominant scorer with great decision making and court-vision. Although McGrady has never taken a team out of the first round, Arenas has never lead a team to being serious playoff contendors. Both are solid shooters from mid and long range. Both can slash equally well. T-mac is a more consistent scorer. You see nights where Arenas is very passive while other nights no one in the NBA can stop him. T-mac also plays much tougher defense, Gilbert pretty much just lets players sprint by him for an easy basket. Both are great finishers, however Arenas is exceptional at getting the and 1. McGrady is also the better playmaker, despite Arenas being a pretty solid passer, T-mac, with the exception of Yao and a few other players, has a pretty weak offensive squad. I take McGrady but not by much.
As I said in the other topic...T-Mac.He is a more efficient scorer, less streaky, more consistent, equally/more dangerous when he gets hot, as skilled as a jumpshooter from anywhere on the floor as GA is, is taller (which allows him much more versatility), can get just as hot/hotter than Arenas when he is on, and has more moves to get himself a good look than GA (GA is a chucker). T-Mac averaged 30PPG on 45% shooting last year when Yao was out for 32 games, and his horrible first month (due to poor offseason conditioning/gaining confidence in bad back) and bad streak for the first few weeks after Yao returned really killed his FG % and PPG. But he showed during those 2 months Yao was out that he is still, IMO, the 2nd best scorer in the league. And this is with the worst offensive coach in the league and having to be pretty much the sole playmaker of the tea,. If JVG let him be in the high post like Doc Rivers did, his production would soar.Not to mention he is the better playmaker/decision maker than Gilbert.
I'll take TMac easily. He's better at almost everything than Gil, except for three-point shooting. TMac's man-to-man defense isn't anywhere near spectacular, but it's light years ahead of Gil. TMac is also the better playmaker, as well as having better court vision (for now). When TMac is on, he's arguably the best scorer in the NBA, up there with Kobe. TMac is also more efficient and more consistent than Gil is (being still at an early stage in his career) from the field. TMac's scoring production is only limited in Houston because the Rockets didn't have a true PG who can set people up with ease. He was forced to be more responsible of taking care of the ball, as well as taking care of PG duties. If the Rockets had a pass-first point guard, TMac would easily put up 28-30 ppg, and would be getting more opportunities to score the ball rather than just be forced to create for his teammates. He was an offensive juggernaut in Orlando, and he still can light it up easily from the floor in Houston.
T-Mac as well here. Like mentioned, he's the better overall player, and more of an offensive threat. McGrady's career highest average is 32 points, while Arenas' is 29. Despite his 1st 2 seasons of his NBA career where he averaged under 10 points a game, he still has a career scoring average right around Arenas'. I would even say that T-Mac, the SG/SF is a better playmaker than Arenas. Last season he averaged 0.5 more assists than Arenas, who was the PG for the Wizards last season, and really only true playmaker. T-Mac is also the better offensive rebounder (1.7/game) compared to Arenas (0.8/game). McGrady has also held mulitple scoring titles, compared to Arenas' none.
This is supposed to be about who is the biggest offensive threat ***RIGHT NOW*** not back 3 seasons or whatever... I can agree that overall TMac has done better things than Arenas but right now... I beleive Arenas is more of an offensive threat
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (x.Scrappy.x @ Jul 24 2007, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is supposed to be about who is the biggest offensive threat ***RIGHT NOW*** not back 3 seasons or whatever... I can agree that overall TMac has done better things than Arenas but right now... I beleive Arenas is more of an offensive threat</div>And again, stats show T-Mac is still the better scorer. Without Yao, T-Mac was dominant as a scorer. I showed the reason why T-Mac is a better scorer without the stats and with the stats. Just because he didn't average 30PPG for the season doesn't mean he isn't a better scorer.And again, scoring is only part of being an offensive threat. Playmaking/decision making/offensive rebounding all have to do with it as well...all of which T-mac is better than Arenas at.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (x.Scrappy.x @ Jul 24 2007, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is supposed to be about who is the biggest offensive threat ***RIGHT NOW*** not back 3 seasons or whatever... I can agree that overall TMac has done better things than Arenas but right now... I beleive Arenas is more of an offensive threat</div>I still think McGrady is the bigger threat now. Yes, Arenas averaged more points last season, but he didn't have to keep adjusting to big injuries on the team like T-Mac did. Plus, T-Mac is taller, more athletic and, more lengthy which makes him a more versatile scorer. Scoring isn't all the offense, and McGrady showed he was a better playmaker last season, as well as offense rebounder, and he didn't turn the ball over as much as Gilbert.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (x.Scrappy.x @ Jul 24 2007, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is supposed to be about who is the biggest offensive threat ***RIGHT NOW*** not back 3 seasons or whatever... I can agree that overall TMac has done better things than Arenas but right now... I beleive Arenas is more of an offensive threat</div>It isn't fair for TMac if we were comparing who is the bigger offensive threat right now. Look at the situation he's been put in, playing PG/taking care of the PG duties, forced to do something that he's never done before, etc. Gil gets the green light on offense all the time and the Wizards are lucky that we have a pass-first PG in Antonio Daniels coming off the bench to compliment Gil with his passing (if we didn't have AD, Gil's scoring production would go down a lot).
I think Arenas, he is a really dangerous offensive player. He is one of the best shooters in the NBA and he can also drive, I think he is a bigger offensive threat but McGrady is a better player overall.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zards @ Jul 24 2007, 06:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It isn't fair for TMac if we were comparing who is the bigger offensive threat right now. Look at the situation he's been put in, playing PG/taking care of the PG duties, forced to do something that he's never done before, etc. Gil gets the green light on offense all the time and the Wizards are lucky that we have a pass-first PG in Antonio Daniels coming off the bench to compliment Gil with his passing (if we didn't have AD, Gil's scoring production would go down a lot).</div>Yup, T-Mac is right up there with Kobe when he gets on fire. Arenas doesn't have Yao Ming to pass to, so of course he is gonna get the ball more, and put up bigger numbers in pts.Gilbert may have been had one of the highest (or highest?) amount of 3's this past season, but his percentage isn't good at all. If you're gonna throw up that many 3's some are bound to go in. McGrady has a better offensive skillset than Arenas. Plus he is a better playmaker (which is why he didn't score as much, actually has a dominant big man to pass 2), and a better defender.
There is no way in hell anyone sane can argue arenas is better than tmac. Infact, i'd take it a step further, you'd be crazy to suggest Arenas is in tmac's league. There is not one thing Arenas does better than tmac. Tmac is the better scorer, rebounder, passer, playmaker and defender. Arenas is the biggest chucker in the league imo, 41% with his supporting cast is unexceptable. He is probably the most inconsistent allstar in the league.</p> </p> It's disrespect to put them in the same sentence.</p>
