Journalists from ABC Australia's Foreign Correspondent met two of these guys before the plot was uncovered. What happened when the ABC met two of the men charged over a plot to kidnap Michigan's Governor Gretchen Whitmer
this is shocking https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/plot-kidnap-me/616866/ The Plot to Kidnap Me Every time the president ramps up his violent rhetoric, every time he fires up Twitter to launch another broadside against me, my family and I see a surge of vicious attacks sent our way. 7:46 AM ET Gretchen Whitmer Governor of Michigan
Which means it’s working out exactly as Trump intended. And yet people will still vote for that divisive POS. He makes me soooooooooooooooooooooooo proud to be an American........
The conspiracy to kidnap the governor was there. The FBI came across right wingers discussing it online and sent in informants to infiltrate the group. I guess the question is exactly how much did the FBI influence the plot? How much did they exacerbate what was already being talked about. Would it have ever passed an online discussion phaze into actual planning and becoming an actual operation? Was it already passing that? Did these informants merely infiltrate and go along with the group or did they push the group to take action? The defense attorneys for those charged are probably having a field day.
The plot to kidnap the governor was not created by the FBI. They found some right wingers discussing it online. They sent in informants to infiltrate the group. I just hope the lawyers for these traitors don't try and claim entrapment or something.
Claiming entrapment is what they are trying to do. They are alleging the FBI agents were the most influential members in the plot and basically handled all the planning and logistics, going as far as paying for other member’s travel and accommodations to attend meetings. Doesn’t exonerate anyone who was a willing participant, but if true, what the fuck is the FBI doing? I don’t see the point in actively trying to radicalize stupid people.
That's what they allege. We will see if it is true. The FBI I'm sure has all their ducks in a row. If they influenced it as is claimed, those guys might go free.
We've had a case very similar to this in Oregon. Man sentenced 30 years for Oregon Christmas bomb plot Story highlights NEW: Mohamed Osman Mohamud, a naturalized citizen, gets 30 years in bomb plot Feds say he planned to bomb a 2010 Christmas ceremony in Portland, Oregon Mohamud said he wanted people to leave "dead or injured," an affidavit says He exchanged emails with al Qaeda member and another terrorist suspect CNN — A 21-year-old naturalized U.S. citizen from Somalia was sentenced Wednesday to 30 years in prison for plotting to bomb a 2010 Christmas-tree lighting ceremony in Portland, Oregon. Mohamed Osman Mohamud was convicted after a two-week trial last year on one count of attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction, namely explosives. Mohamud was a 19-year-old Oregon State University student when he was arrested on November 26, 2010, and accused of trying to blow up what he believed to be an explosives-laden van parked near a holiday event in Pioneer Courthouse Square, authorities said. The bomb was actually a fake planted by federal agents involved in the extensive undercover operation. Mohamud described the device as “beautiful,” according to his arrest affidavit. Born in Mogadishu in 1991, Mohamud moved to the United States and became a naturalized U.S. citizen, settling in the northwestern Oregon city of Corvallis. Years before he enrolled at Oregon State University, he’d started thinking of taking part in a violent jihad, according to the U.S. Justice Department. In February 2009, he began exchanging the first of about 150 emails with Samir Khan, a now-deceased al Qaeda member who published two online publications tied to the terrorist group, Jihad Recollections and Inspire. According to the Justice Department, Mohamud wrote several articles under assumed names for the former publication. The Oregon resident began communicating electronically in August 2009 with another accused terrorist, Amro Al-Ali, who is now being held in his native Saudi Arabia on terrorist charges, federal authorities said. The two discussed Mohamud’s possible travel first to Yemen and then to Pakistan’s Northwest Frontier province for terrorist training. “Yes that would be wonderful, just tell me what I need to do,” Mohamud wrote back in December 2009, the affidavit stated. That trip never happened, despite Mohamud’s efforts to contact intermediaries to facilitate it. But he was reached in summer 2010 by a man who, unbeknownst to him, was an undercover FBI employee. The FBI investigation moved to another level, including several discussions and trips involving Mohamud and undercover agents. On November 4, 2010, on the way back from a trial run to a remote location to detonate a bomb, he was asked what he hoped would happen to those attending the Portland holiday ceremony, a family event that includes people of all ages. “I want whoever is attending that event to leave … either dead or injured,” Mohamud said, the affidavit states. Having canvassed to the area to find a spot to inflict the most casualties, Mohamud got what he believed to be a live bomb from the undercover agents. But the device was inert, and after his second attempt to detonate it, Mohamud was arrested. https://www.cnn.com/2014/10/01/justice/oregon-terror-sentencing/index.html
They might through a technicality. I mean anyone who is a willing participant in a kidnapping plot is fucked in the head and should be punished somehow, period. But there is a difference between being the mastermind and being a patsy IMO.
Sounds risky. He strikes me as the type that might secretly have boxing, jiu jitsu, or some other can of whoop ass up his sleeve.
