<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SirLaker @ Jul 24 2007, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kb_24, you don't really know what you are talking about. Seems like your views are probably from one of your parents, and you disect your thinking from that. Most of my views are conservative, and I support the troops.</div>I feel the same way..I hope this thread is a joke, because its disturbing to read you want another thousands of people to die ...
lmfao your a straight up homo...you dont even know sh*t no one that I know who opposes the war doesn't want to get rid of terrorists - we want to get rid of troops getting killed in Iraq when we are in Iraq trying to set up a central government...
to seriously answer this question. I don't think so. There is nothing wrong for the people in America to begin living their normal lives. It would be worse if we were scared every second, just waiting for the bad news, and not doing anything else.
I knew this would happen.... this is why I should just keep my opinions to myself about the war....What I am trying to say, just to make myself clear, and I HOPE you guys can stop jumping to a conclusion on this....So many people are against the war right now, but if another terrorist attack happened, they would realize that we need to be in the war. I am not in any way hoping another attack does occur, I am just saying that is what would happen. And if we do pull out, then our chances of being attacked increase dramatically, and if we do get attacked after we pull out, people will be screaming why did we pull the troops out, send them back!That is the point I am trying to get across. I really messed up on my choice of words and topic title because it was just an opinion I had when I saw all the protestors today on TV. I do not in anyway want us to get attacked again, I am just trying to get my point across that we need to be over there killing those bastards. Next time, I will try not to sound like I am an ignorant s.o.b. Re-reading my topic, I would assume the same to someonelse who wrote this, my fault. But the point above is the one I was trying to make.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KobeBryant_24 @ Jul 24 2007, 08:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I knew this would happen.... this is why I should just keep my opinions to myself about the war....What I am trying to say, just to make myself clear, and I HOPE you guys can stop jumping to a conclusion on this....So many people are against the war right now, but if another terrorist attack happened, they would realize that we need to be in the war. I am not in any way hoping another attack does occur, I am just saying that is what would happen. And if we do pull out, then our chances of being attacked increase dramatically, and if we do get attacked after we pull out, people will be screaming why did we pull the troops out, send them back!That is the point I am trying to get across. I really messed up on my choice of words and topic title because it was just an opinion I had when I saw all the protestors today on TV. I do not in anyway want us to get attacked again, I am just trying to get my point across that we need to be over there killing those bastards. Next time, I will try not to sound like I am an ignorant s.o.b. Re-reading my topic, I would assume the same to someonelse who wrote this, my fault. But the point above is the one I was trying to make.</div>Ok, now that you've clarified..But still, the reason we haven't been getting attacked isn't because of the War in Iraq. It's because of increased and enhanced security since 9/11. The government gets tips all the time on possible terrorist attacks, and once they do strike, the government is able to stop it. If anything, being in the war makes the Nation more vulnerable for terrorist attacks, because a lot of our focus is towards the troops, while if the troops weren't fighting the war, we would have more focus on our Nation's safety.
stupid ass thing to say, why ban him for asking a question (cant tell if you're jokin, didnt take it like that)I get what he is saying, but it still would not make much sense at all. We have been in Iraq for a long time now, after the initial "successes" of the war (if you can call them that) there really isn't anything here. The people responsible for 9/11 weren't backed by Iraq or I think even from Iraq. That is where most of our soldiers are stationed though. We went to Iraq to find the so called WMD's. None showed up, but they thought "Hey lets clean this sh*t up!". They took out Saddam (the only positive thing here), but there are still insurgents who are attacking them over there. It would've been better not to get in this mess as it is. There are still suicide bombings in Iraq, and other places like Pakistan. People just assume that Iraq did it and totally agreed with the 9/11 attacks. I just can't see it any good to stay there any longer. We've done enough. More of our soldiers are dying every day. Not needed.
So, what your saying is, we should go back to spending a billion dollars a week, killing thousands of people a month, to spare America from a couple of terrorist attacks? If we leave Iraq, and we have a couple terrorist attacks, we will deal with it, and probably stop most of them before they can do anything. Saying we should stay there to protect the homeland is ridiculous<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>So many people are against the war right now, but if another terrorist attack happened, they would realize that we need to be in the war.</div> No, thats absurd.
THE WAR IN IRAQ HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE 9/11 TERRORIST ATTACK YOU DUMBFUCK. THE WAR IN AFGHANASTAN DOES...EVERYONE SUPPORTS <u>THAT WAR FOR BIN LADEN</u> BUT I DID NOT BELIEVE IN THE WAR OF TAKING OUR ATTENTION FROM BIN LADEN AND GOING AFTER SADDAM HUESSIEN WHO WAS NOT LINKED TO TERRORISM./rant.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Jul 24 2007, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>THE WAR IN IRAQ HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE 9/11 TERRORIST ATTACK YOU DUMBFUCK. THE WAR IN AFGHANASTAN DOES...EVERYONE SUPPORTS <u>THAT WAR FOR BIN LADEN</u> BUT I DID NOT BELIEVE IN THE WAR OF TAKING OUR ATTENTION FROM BIN LADEN AND GOING AFTER SADDAM HUESSIEN WHO WAS NOT LINKED TO TERRORISM./rant.</div>Sir, I can understand your frustration with a main focus in Iraq and not in Afghanistan where we were originally. But, believe me, I had a hard time figuring it out myself but there are terrorists in Iraq as well. And when people say bring the troops home, they are including the troops in Afghanistan, which are still there. They aren't saying bring the troops from Iraq home and keep the ones in Afghanistan there. I also am glad some of you are understanding my main purpose for this topic and my opinion, and I apologize for anyone who thought I had another opinion, which it sounded like orginally, my fault.
First of all, this war is not winnable. Even if there was another attack that would spur positive feelings about the conflict, we, as foreign invaders, have no chance. They will prevail in expelling the U.S. from the Middle East, no matter how strongly Americans feel as far as being pro-war. We're in the Muslim holy land where they take foreign invasion from other cultures/religions extremely seriously. So it's time to leave and cut our losses, I say. It's a war on terrorism; it's impossible for one nation to destroy every single terrorist cell over there and even all over the world.And you see what George Bush is doing to everybody, using all of this rhetoric to try to relieve himself of any guilt and finger-pointing. He says that Bin Laden is still over there leading terrorist groups and if we leave, they'll just continue on. Even with the troops there now, Bin Laden is in hiding wherever he is leading them. He says that success is near and failure is possible if we leave. Failure is still very possible if we stay; like I said we cannot destroy every single terrorist with anti-American feelings in the world.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SBoyd415 @ Jul 24 2007, 05:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's the most idiotic way of getting people to support the war again. What we really needs is laws against slanderous remarks towards the government during wartime. Having another 9/11 is not going to help anything, and it's pretty appalling someone would want that just so the country would support the war again...</div>There are already laws against slander.And KB24 continues to prove why he's the dumbest member on the site.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KobeBryant_24 @ Jul 24 2007, 09:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sir, I can understand your frustration with a main focus in Iraq and not in Afghanistan where we were originally. But, believe me, I had a hard time figuring it out myself but there are terrorists in Iraq as well. And when people say bring the troops home, they are including the troops in Afghanistan, which are still there. They aren't saying bring the troops from Iraq home and keep the ones in Afghanistan there. I also am glad some of you are understanding my main purpose for this topic and my opinion, and I apologize for anyone who thought I had another opinion, which it sounded like orginally, my fault.</div>mardy isnt a sir, he's a bi*ch There are terrorists everywhere. That's what the U.S. is thinking too, "Hey we took out Saddam, but there are still some people here, lets try to take em all out." That can't be done, at least not anytime soon. The Occupation in Iraq has taken out one of the world's worst dictators, but it has also caused even more hate for the U.S. The terrorists use the war in Iraq to try to gain support. There is still a large amount of people that would like to take the U.S. out, you could say that even more were made ever since the war.
1)The war on terror has increased our chances of getting attacked by terrorists. Even the administration admits now that the war has been terribly mishandled and increased terror danger.2) You are correct that there are terrorists in Iraq, but the vast majority are there because of our war there. The war has increased terrorism worldwide.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Jul 24 2007, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>THE WAR IN IRAQ HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE 9/11 TERRORIST ATTACK YOU DUMBFUCK. THE WAR IN AFGHANASTAN DOES...EVERYONE SUPPORTS <u>THAT WAR FOR BIN LADEN</u> BUT I DID NOT BELIEVE IN THE WAR OF TAKING OUR ATTENTION FROM BIN LADEN AND GOING AFTER SADDAM HUESSIEN WHO WAS NOT LINKED TO TERRORISM./rant.</div>
