Trade Ideas Thread

It's not way too much for me for CJ... it would take me a second to pull the trigger if Danny Ainge offered me that deal because I would have to wonder what kind of fantasy universe I was living in. Then I would as fast as possible call the deal into the league. Good grief that would make us so so so much better. You say that it's way too much for CJ, I would say that Jaylen Brown's trade value is more valuable than CJ's by a margin that is greater than the margin of CJ's trade value over Marcus Smart's. That's how lopsided that trade is Smart isn't as valuable as CJ but he is closer to CJ's value than CJ is to Brown's. So you take both of those guys and it's like you should have to trade two players at CJ's value to get them.

I think it's really a case of Channing Frye having played with CJ and overvaluing him (which says a lot about the kind of teammates that both CJ and Channing are) and greatly undervaluing guys he hasn't played with and the still growing upside of a guy like Brown. It's a boneheaded take.

 

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Well it turns out that I was off by about five years on when I thought Channing was here. Oops! I feel stupid but I now also feel that Channing Frye's take is even more boneheaded because he has no legitimate reason to be biased on how he evaluates CJ versus Brown and Smart. I stand behind everything else I said that added up to Brown and Smart being worth two CJs.

 

The most obvious trade of the off-season is still:

#16 for Bjelica (TPE) and #35
- or -
#46 and a future 2nd for Bjelica (TPE)

Obviously the 2nd option is the best but if we could fill the backup 4 spot with someone as talented and cost-controlled as Bjelica without using a free agent exception, it's a win talent-wise, and sets us up to only have to worry about backup C in free agency.

Basically, making either of these trades for Bjelica would guarantee us a top 3 bench next year, since we should be able to get a really good backup C with the Full MLE. It's crazy how close we are to having a really good bench.

 

LOL! I love the Warriors fan who thinks it’s too much to give up for Dame. Talk about a homer.

 

Bjelica is a good idea.

Even with him I'd sign Gallo, Crowder, or whatever the best forward is we can get.

Backup center might be Collins, or we can sign a vet minimum. I wouldn't use the MLE on a center as its the deepest position.

 

I think we need a good defender playing at PF in the starting lineup. Gallo is kinda eh, and Bjelica is very Gallo-esque. Crowder would be a better fit but I'd rather just start Zach at the 4 and get a good backup C.

 

Man! I feel you are really over valuing Brown. He's more inconsistent than CJ. Brown is growing on me as a talent, but he's not as clutch as CJ.

 

I do Cj for Jaylon Brown ASAP.
Add trent into the starting lineup next to brown....you immediately become a solid defensive team and Brown has steadily improved his shooting since he was a rookie. Honestly you may be able to get something extra out of Boston but definitely not Marcus smart. Those two for CJ would be an absolute haul. We would be contenders

 

100%.

 

I have a complicated trade idea and I don't think it would be considered tampering. The Pistons have a team because of Blake Griffin's contract that needs to try and win next season. They also have the most cap room in the league. Not to mention D. Rose only has a year left on his contract and the Lakers are interested in him. Basically, I think the Pistons might be in the market for a running mate for Blake Griffin and someone locked into a contract to provide continuity for their future, someone with great character and leadership, someone like CJ McCollum. So if we talked to the Wolves and the Pistons about a trade that would consummate two days after the draft, we could ask the Wolves who they would want the Pistons to draft at 8 that the Pistons would like to keep if the deal fell through and who the Wolves would like us to draft at 16 and 46 that we would want to keep should the deal fall through. We stay in contact with the Pistons and the Wolves during the draft so regardless of how the picks went, we could keep the deal alive. At the end of the day if the Wolves had who they wanted at 8, 16 and 46 for Anthony Edwards then in two days the last part of the deal could be completed. That part of the deal would be us striking a long term contract with Christian Wood for around 15-16M per season, then a sign and trade that would send CJ to the Pistons for the newly signed Wood and the rights to the player drafted 8th, followed by a trade for the rights to Edwards in exchange for the rights to the players drafted 8th, 16th and 46th.

We end up with Dame, Gary, Trevor, Wood, Nurk, Hoodie, Zach, Edwards, Nas, Ant, probably pick up Wenyen for the min, possibly Rio, then a free agent at 14 or 15 million from cap space, the MLE and BAE. Obviously one of our moves would be to get a solid backup PG probably with the MLE (maybe Kris Dunn) but we could just get the best young experienced player available for 14 or 15 million to add depth (maybe Montezl Harrell) and one more pretty good piece with the BAE (no idea). I would also want to extend Gary during the abbreviated off season. It would make it so we would be really competitive this season but our future, for the rest of Dame's career and beyond would be very very bright. Dame at point with Gary and Edwards on the wings, with Wood and Nurk in the post has the potential to be absolutely the best starting lineup in the league. Then depth with Zach, Nas, Wenyen, Ant, and our free agents we pick up in this off season. We could be looking at a dynasty pretty quickly if Edwards pans out and Wood continues on his trajectory.

 

Not as much as the Celtics do. I don't think there's a chance in Hell they'd trade him for CJ.

 

So, the Thunder are promoting an assistant to be their new coach. That suggests they are all in on rebuilding. Are there any of their vets you would like to poach? Would you offer Simons/Little for one of their future picks?

 

Heres one:
CJ, Nurk & Ariza for KAT & D.Russell

Russell is 6'5 versus CJ 6'3 plus he gets more steals than CJ.
KAT wants a change of scenery and he's better than Nurk.

 

Yeah, I'd do that in a heartbeat, I don't think Minny would touch it with a ten foot pole but Olshey would be an absolute idiot if he didn't do that one.

 

I don't think that's nearly enough for KAT alone.

 

Yeah, if KAT was on the block (which I really don't think he is) maybe they'd take CJ, Nurk and three first rounders for him and the salary that James Johnson is definitely going to opt into.

 

Remember who their assistant coach is, he's a huge CJ fan.