OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. riverman

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    health spa facials don't count
    clay mask.jpg
     
    riverman, Nov 13, 2020
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Well, it's just like with anti-vaxxers--the government doesn't force you to do smart things to protect you. It forces you to do smart things to protect other people from you.
     
    Minstrel, Nov 13, 2020
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    I don’t know what was crazier. The fact that we did fights tonight in a ballroom of a hotel with 500 people jammed in there and I shit you not, maybe only 20 people wore masks........ or this dude knocked this DeAndre Jordan lookin motherfucker THE FUCK out in only THREE seconds!!!!!!
     
    THE HCP, Nov 13, 2020
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Well that let's me out. Can I rise off this mud now? It's beginning to stink.
     
    Lanny, Nov 14, 2020
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    Road Ratt King of my own little world

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    Hitler has Coronavirus and he is Mad! :bgrin:

     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    But months ago I was led to believe that our hospitals have not been "over-run".
     
    yankeesince59, Nov 14, 2020
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    Gee, I wonder who said the 2nd wave is gonna be worst than the first?

    Oh right, Fauci... a fucking scientist. Shocking.

    Fuck Trump.
     
    Strenuus, Nov 14, 2020
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  10. SlyPokerDog

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    Here's why conservatives and liberals differ on COVID-19
    New Lehigh University College of Business study looks at getting everyone to agree on the pandemic threat

    Throughout the COVID-19 pandemic, political ideology has been perhaps the strongest predictor of consumers' perceptions of the coronavirus' threat. According to a new study from Lehigh University's College of Business, the differences between conservative and liberal responses to COVID-19 are mitigated when people perceive the virus itself to have agency -- the ability to control its own actions and thus exert power over people.

    Conservatives are generally more sensitive to threats that are relatively high in agency, propose Daniel Zane, assistant professor of marketing in Lehigh University's College of Business, and co-author Luke Nowlan, assistant professor of marketing at KU Leuven, Belgium, in their study.

    "In the context of the pandemic, you have these players -- the policymakers, the American public, media organizations, your neighbors - that, at least relative to the unobservable virus, have more agency," says Zane, "whereas this virus has less agency."

    According to the paper, "Getting Conservatives and Liberals to Agree on the COVID-19 Threat," published in the Journal of the Association for Consumer Research in September, conservatives tend to see free will as the primary driver of outcomes in life, whereas liberals are more accepting of the idea that randomness plays a role. Compared to liberals, conservatives tend to attribute outcomes to purposeful actions. So in the context of the pandemic, they're more likely to blame any negative outcomes in their lives on these more agentic policymakers or fellow Americans rather than the virus itself.

    "According to our study, conservatives might at least in part be less likely to wear masks because they don't feel as threatened by the virus itself," says Zane. "Any hardships that they're facing in their lives around health, financial issues, even going to movie theaters or shopping malls, might not necessarily trace back to the virus for them. So, they feel like they don't have to protect themselves from it."

    To get greater buy-in about safety measures like wearing masks and economic shutdowns, Zane says that at the beginning of the pandemic, and even still now, instead of throwing around statistics, policymakers and health officials should have started talking about the virus in terms that gave it more agency.

    "If they talked about the virus as having a motive, as being a palpable enemy that is seeking to attack humans," says Zane, "maybe you get greater buy-in from the start on the part of conservatives. We also show in our research that liberals are not driven away by doing this, so it seems like a good move."

    https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-11/lu-hwc111320.php
     
    SlyPokerDog, Nov 14, 2020
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    So he's questioning Trump? Cause that's who is proclaiming it.

    Is this guy that stupid?
     
    Strenuus, Nov 15, 2020
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    But many countries with conservative leaders, like Germany and South Korea, have controlled the virus. It's only a handful with antiscience, selfish, me first fuck you, attitudes and in all (US, Russia, Brazil) it starts from the top.
     
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    I'll think about it a little more but my initial reaction is it's a crock of shit

    basically, they are saying since conservatives don't believe in science or facts, you have to construct back-door messaging in hopes that will sink thru their thick skulls and worm a way thru their selfish stupid bias

    but none of it would have worked with trump doing and saying what he was. That right there is the problem. If trump would have come out in May and agreed with the WHO and CDC and NIH and experts that masks and social distancing were essential to controlling the virus, we wouldn't be in this situation. These people are sheeple

    the problem isn't messaging, the problem is obstinate willful ignorance that celebrates itself
     
    wizenheimer, Nov 15, 2020
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    and here's an example of the kind of people that 'study' is trying to message for. The R's in Minnesota legislature had a Covid outbreak, They warned all the other R's, but did not warn the D's:

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/minnesota-gop-covid-state-senate_n_5fb0a3dcc5b6d05e86e79afb

    sure seems these people are just fucking assholes that hate the other side. How are you going to message them out of being assholes? They are taking their queues from trump
     
    wizenheimer, Nov 15, 2020
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    SlyPokerDog, Nov 15, 2020
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    I’ve been hearing the hospitals are over-run since April. Obviously that wasn’t the case.
     
    tlongII, Nov 15, 2020
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    There have been many cases of hospitals being over-run. Many I have shared with you.
     
    SlyPokerDog, Nov 15, 2020
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    Hospitals are having a high turnover ratio of nurses and doctors....some to protect their families opt to put the career on hold until this passes.
     
    riverman, Nov 15, 2020
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    apparently if ALL hospitals aren't being over-run, there isn't a problem
     
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