Trade Ideas Thread

let him go or use him in a sign and trade. It was clear in the bubble he wasn’t gonna work as a backup

 

Is Covington that good of a defensive player? Because his 3 pt shooting is a little over rated IMO

 

ESPN trade machine has an issue with trading Ariza, they only count his guaranteed money.

 

Arizas actually a pretty good trade asset considering his guarantee, but we also kinda need him.

 

I actually think we could get Oubre for Ariza, Simons and #46. I think we would then draft BPA that isn't a wing and then depending on if we get a big or a guard that can facilitate with #16 then we will sign the other with the MLE. For me ideally we would take Poku at 16, sign Kriss Dunn with the MLE and Nerlens Noel with the BAE or MCW and Josh Jackson with the MLE and still go with Noel BAE.

Rotation: Dame, CJ, Oubre, Zach, Nurk, Gary, Dunn, Noel, Nas, Wenyen.

 

Obviously my number one trade is still

CJ and Ariza for Harris, Richadson and #21

In an ideal world for me we would then use #16 on Poku, #21 on Scrubbs and #46 on N'Doye. We could then sign both MCW and Nerlens Noel with the MLE.

Depth Chart:

PG Dame, MCW, Ant, N'Doye
SG Gary, Richardson, MCW, Ant, N'Doye
SF Richardson, Hoodie, Harris, Nas, Scrubbs
PF Harris, Zach, Wenyen, Poku
C Nurk, Zach, Noel

Obviously the roster is Dame, Gary, Richardson, Harris, Nurk, Zach, Hoodie, MCW, Noel, Ant, Nas, Wenyen, Poku, Scrubbs and N'Doye but I wanted to highlight the multi positional versatility of so many of the players with the depth chart. I honestly think that this team is so much better than the one that results from the above trade. Better chance to win big now and a brighter future.

 

Ariza can't be traded until his full salary is guaranteed.

 

Maybe that is why the Trade Machine doesn't approve the trade as of now.

 

Sign and trade Whiteside for Covington?

 

Would love to but they would hang up

 

Both tradenba's trade machine and realgm's trade machine approve the trade but they count Ariza's contract as fully guaranteed, which it has to be in order to trade him. It's definitely a glitch with ESPN because when you do the trade it fails and says we have to cut the amount of salary that represents that Ariza's outgoing salary is only around 2 millioin.

This is what ESPN trade machine says when you try to trade Oubre for Ariza straight up:

• The Trail Blazers are over the luxury tax threshold with this trade and the incoming aggregate salaries exceeded what's allowed via the 125% plus $100,000 rule. Cut $13,275,000 from the Trail Blazers incoming trade value to make this trade successful.

 

looks like this is the reason

*Under the current CBA, only the guaranteed portion of a player’s contract counts for outgoing salary purposes in a trade*

so 1.8m, for now.

 

The thing about sign and trades that so many in here keep getting wrong is that the team facilitating the sign and trade never gets anything close to the value of the player that they have the right to sign under the bird exception. They get a couple of second rounders, sometimes a player they want that the other team doesn't and almost always a trade exception. That's the way sign and trades work, even when they're for superstars the facilitating team gets very little. Go back and look at what Toronto got when they did the sign and trade for Bosh to make Miami's big 3. For Bosh who was an all nba player in his prime at the time, the Raptors got two first rounders one was their own 2011 first rounder that the Heat had the rights to and was heavily protected so the Heat wouldn't have been able to use it anyway and a protected pick from the Heat plus a trade exception.

 

Orlando is notorious for their poor development of the guys they draft.

Bamba needs a fresh start and to get far away from Orlando management as possible.

 

where would bamba play? Or we trading zach

 

I have a feeling I will be depressed by Friday.

 

I mean, I hear what you’re saying but...considering 2020’s events I can’t imagine an nba draft pushing me over the edge to depression.

 

Portland can do that at any time. They dont have to wait for a certain date to guarantee his contract

 

He is a great defensive player. His 3pt shot is kind of like Ariza's. Not some knock down shooter but cannot leave wide open.

Best thing is he has a team friendly contract for which we need. Otherwise next year we will be "forced" to renew Ariza without any cap space available.

 

@tester551 if you look at this quote from @Scalma that I was replying to, I just wasn't sure what Scalma meant by "considering his guarantee". I was saying that if Scalma meant that the ability to let Ariza walk and save 10 million would be attractive to other teams then he would be wrong because that guarantee has to be locked in before a trade could go through. I know we can guarantee it at any time or at least after the moratorium is over.