Trade Blazers trade Hezonja for Kanter!

What do you mean?

 

Memphis is likely to cut Henzonja if they cannot deal him...

 

Gotcha. I thought he was saying they were literally NOT letting him into their practice facility. I could totally understand why they wouldn't, just making sure.

 

I read on Twitter that he has not been invited to training camp.
Here is a story on it.
https://www.talkbasket.net/112967-mario-hezonja-marko-guduric-wont-be-with-grizzlies-for-training-camp#:~:text=Mario Hezonja and Marko Guduric,Herrington of The Daily Memphian.&text=He was traded to the,Celtics to the Trail Blazers.

"Grizzlies camp news: Mario Hezonja and Marko Guduric are not/will not be in camp with the team. They remain on the roster for now, but barring trades a buyout for both before cut-down deadline looks likely."

— Chris Herrington (@ChrisHerrington) December 2, 2020

 

They don't say the word invite that you are saying.

My guess is the Grizz don't plan on them being on the 15 man roster and communicated such to their agent/players. It would be stupid if the player had to fly in internationally and deal with quarantining only to be cut a few days later.

Its not like Mario was waiting down the street in his warm ups all ready to be invited but they aren't letting him in the building. He probably doesn't want to go either, just cash that $2 million and play somewhere else.

 

I don't think my definition of buyout and the guy who wrote that article's definition are the same thing. I'm pretty sure buyouts only happen when there are multiple years left on deals and a player feels they can do better somewhere else in the league. If Memphis wants Rio off of that roster, their just going to have to cut him and give him his guaranteed money... which isn't that much (for an NBA player) to begin with.

 

That doesn’t happen often. It’s almost always in the last year of the deal.

 

When has a buyout been for multiple years? All I can remember is in the final year which is very common.

 

Maybe I was wrong and it does happen a lot in the last year of the contract but as much as I may have overlooked that you are overlooking a huge phenomenon of multiyear buyouts. Just go to any team's payroll and look for dead money. That's because of a buyout and stretch provision on a deal that had more than a year left on it. Just on our team we still have Varejao and Nicholson that are dead money from buying out and stretching multiyear deals. Tons of teams have the same thing.

 

I think it's more one "way too" big year stretched over 3-4 years? Certainly that was the case with Varejao.

 

Those are not buy outs, those are waive and stretch mechanism only for the teams salary cap. It's considered waiving a player, not buying out. Waiving has nothing to do with the paychecks the player gets. They get the money the same days and amounts as specified in the normal contract if they were playing. The cap hit is spread out on the team's salary cap as dead money for multiple years which does not match the year of the actual paycheck the player gets.

A buyout is when a player gives up some money owed to be released from a contract and can sign with a new team. Usually they only give up a tiny amount or agree to offset part of future new contracts.

 

Waive and stretch terms is the current years on the contract doubled plus one. So if the player has;

1 years left its stretched over 3 years
2 years left its stretched over 5 years
3 years left its stretched over 7 years

 

OK, I get it now. I always thought that the team that exercised the stretch provision had to take the entire amount left on the deal in salary cap hits stretched over the future but had the opportunity to negotiate a buyout to pay the player less, thus reducing the team's expenses but not getting salary cap absolvement. I was wrong. Thanks for telling me. You can only stretch a player if you straight up waive them. One more piece of the CBA that I now understand.

 

Actually I think you are sort of right sometimes, the Hawks negotiated a buyout with Crawford first and then waived and stretched it over multiple years. Josh Smith could have been like this too.

In practice I think players very rarely take take less and just get stretched for the full amount.

When I think of "buy out" I think of only the deals done in the final year to end a contract as those are much more common and thats what I was saying in the original response.

 

Do you remember what we did with Steve Francis? I don't know if we just had to eat the $17 million cap hit for both of the next two seasons or if there was some kind of stretch provision but we definitely bought him out with 2 years and $34 million left on his contract.

 

Ahh... Facts is facts. I learned something today. Thank you.

 

it was just a buy-out. I don't know if the terms of the buy-out were ever released



but even though the stretch provision was available, Portland didn't use it. This was during Pritchard's lame "Bake-a-Cake" period since they had just drafted Oden after Aldridge and Roy had just finished their rookie seasons. And integral to the bake-a-cake BS was the 2009 cap-space plan (which precluded using the stretch on Francis)....which ended up a bust for a variety of reasons

 

Good example, yeah Francis was bought out 2 years.... I think those are pretty rare as usually the team wants to keep them until the final season so they can potentially trade the contract. Once its bought out it is permanently on the cap.

 

Speaking of buyouts I wonder if the Spurs will buy out LaMarcus? Id think once we get to the trade deadline they will. If we have an injury or a big underperforming maybe we try and pick him up.

 

Mario should go home to Europe and play big minutes...he's going to waive towels in the NBA