2020 Training Camp Thread

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  1. Buffalo Custard

    Buffalo Custard Well-Known Member

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    Not sure how other teams giving out bad deals makes CJ any less over-paid.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    How else do you judge a player's contract? Superstars make 40+, All Stars make 30+, fringe guys make 29-35 depending on the year of the deal. CJ may be slightly overpaid, but his deal is not nearly as egregious as others. This isn't 2015.

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    Blake Griffin is the 8th highest paid, K Love is the 20th highest paid Where did they come in on ESPN's top 100 player list?
     
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    Guys on that list who I would not want at those numbers over CJ: Westbrook, Wall, Griffin, Klay, Conley, Kemba, Tobias, Kyrie, Love, Wiggins. Iffy: CP3, Middleton, Lowry, Porzingis. That's 11-14 of 26 ahead of him. Really puts things in perspective.
     
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    My criteria? If CJ is your 2nd best player does his contract interfere with you building a contender around Dame? I believe it does. YMMV.
     
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    Exactly, and our books are somewhat in balance by having Nurk getting only 12 mil/yr.
     
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    And it's mitigated by Nurk making only 12. Our top three consisting of a superstar + 2 fringe stars add up to 72 mil. That's peanuts in today's NBA, and does not hinder our ability to build a solid/contending team around Dame whatsoever.
     
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    Just playing Devil's advocate here, but how many guys are on that list due to injury issues? Was Brandon Roy over-paid?
     
  9. Scalma

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    I would take all those guys on a team (operative word being a as I’m not talking about just Portland) over CJ outside of love,Wiggins, and possibly Griffin. And two of those are only because of injuries.
     
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    More hype video

     
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    Exactly--I think NO drafted Elleby as a potential replacement for GTJ if he gets like a max offer next year and it's just too much for us to match.
     
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    God damn! The MAX for GTJR?
     
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    I thought it was pretty clear I was talking about Hollinger's numbers
     
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    I like Trent but I don't see anybody paying max but there a lot of teams out just might.
     
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    You see him the first few years of his career?!?!?!
     
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    One can hope Giles can be our redemption for Jermaine.
     
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    Several, but you could make lots of spin-off arguments like, how many players not on the list have higher value? The point was simple, CJ represents better value than roughly half of the players paid higher than him.

    You're changing it slightly to just preferred players, rather than weighing contract and impact. There's a big difference between CJ's $29M and Russ' $41M, for example.
     
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    Simons looks jacked compared to last year..one more sleep!!!!
     
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    Giles actually had some decent numbers last season, and was a lot better as a starter. I don't know if that really means anything

    his wingspan is 4" longer than Zach, so at least the Blazers have a couple of PF's with height & length, even though one is still injured
     
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