I think they should pay homeage to history. Grover Cleveland. The team colors could be blue and you could get a contract with Sesame and have Grover be the mascot.
I remember back in the '70s when Stanford dropped the Indians name and switched to the Cardinal. Most people back then thought they were nuts, now it looks like they were just way ahead of the curve.
I get the 'Redskins' being gone, but just the name Indians, seemed a bit of a surprise. The mascot characature logo? That I totally get. So what about the Braves? Blackhawks?
Yeah.... I feel like if it's tastefully done, what's the problem? It's a nod to the warriors of their ancestors.
True. I'm proud of my Indian heritage (small part from what I'm told....adopted) and studied up on it as a kid. Grew up where my local high school name was the Indians....in a very Indian part of the state. Mascots are just that....mascots. None of my Irish friends are offended by the Celtic caricature. I guess it's each to their own, but when talking to Native American Indians as a kid, no one was offended by the high school mascot.
agree...I am part Indian and I dont mind at all Indians as the name, actually its a good name. Look at how many towns in Oregon are named after Indian Names/Tribes.
I really believe what matters in this situation is what the indigenous people of this land want. If all of them in this country feel like it's cool for non-indigenous owners of sports teams to profit off of their heritage then I guess it will be cool. If even some of them don't then everyone of the teams in pro sports and every college with a nickname or mascot can take the opportunity and change. Changing the name from "Indians" was obvious seeing as how it's about the most ignorant (not offensive just stupid) way to refer to indigenous people of this land because explorers actually thought the Caribbean islands were India, then when they realized they were wrong they just said that this whole area was the "West Indies" because... well the exploring, colonizing and conquering European nations weren't big on admitting they were just wrong. Eventually the name only stuck in a small group of islands, the other islands and continental areas were renamed but for some fucking reason until like thirty years ago and in reality until the word Indian only refers to people from India we continue to label people from the other side of the fucking planet Indians when that's about as far from being accurate as possible. So I think if indigenous people do cosign on teams and schools using their almost extinguished heritage to make a profit off of branding and merchandise... some huge percentage of the revenue (like somewhere in the nineties) generated by the use of the likeness of their people should go to them. Lets see how many teams and schools want to pay homage to "Native Americans" then.
I have direct Norwegian heritage. My grandfather is 100% Norwegian. If I'm offended by the Vikings, should they change their name? The Seminoles have the blessing of the Seminole tribe. What other tribes think/feel is irrelevant.
As far as I know Norwegian people weren't driven out of their land and didn't go through mass and almost complete genocide. Those people whose ancestors were called Vikings are still living and thriving on the land of their endogenous ancestors. As for the Seminoles, it's my understanding that the tribe is cool with the nickname so that shouldn't be a problem but unless a vast majority of the licensing for that name goes to the tribe (which might be the case) a reasonable person might conclude that although the tribe is fine with FSU using their name and likeness, they are being exploited.
https://nacc.stanford.edu/about-nacc/history-timelines/stanford-mascot-timeline My only question is, why the sour grapes?
