OT World Allies Think US Law Enforcement Aided Coup Attempt

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  1. riverman

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    my mistake...I thought you were...must have been another poster but thank you for aooreciating vets.
     
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    No, I didn’t “explicitly” say racism doesn’t exist. You clearly don’t know the meaning of “explicit.” It doesn’t mean haphazardly patching together someone’s statements to try and make them match your predetermined conclusion. Sorry Freud, ‘my bad’...for not yielding to your incorrect interpretations and bad takes. Next time I need someone to tell me what I’m thinking I’ll be sure to let you know.
     
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    A dozen Capitol policemen are under investigation for aiding and abetting the coup.....there were cops, military professionals, legislaters and policemen joining forces with the rioters...this was a coup...then you have asshats like Gaetz trying to shift blame to antifa...which he should be removed from office for doing as well
     
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    Outrage by Nunes and others over lost twitter followers....twitter answers....we removed 70000 nazi's and Q'Anon conspiracy accts...many were accounts generated by one person with multiple accounts...those are followers I wouldn't brag about or miss
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Racism is the "power of skin color" to affect outcomes. Saying that skin color has no power is explicitly saying racism doesn't exist. Keep trying (badly) to argue semantics, because you definitely don't want to have to explain your claim that racism no longer exists--as we established, that's a deeply embarrassing statement you made.
     
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    You know I didn’t say that, but you continue to defend your dubious claim. This is how you and other radical thinkers justify your extreme opinions, you just start with an insanely exaggerated conclusion then work backwards hoping to connect a couple dots and convolute it enough to irk out a mottled win. It’s trash and you know it.
     
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    Well if this means this, then this could mean that. Some people who think that think this, so you’re probably one of those definitely.
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    That's exactly what you said. You said "there is no power in skin color." Those are literally your words, and saying that skin color has no power means there's no racism, because IF skin color has no power, no one derives advantage or disadvantage from skin color.

    You can't rationally defend that, so you aren't trying. You're just desperately continuing to claim you didn't say that.
     
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    After all the election fraud conspiracies, the idea that someone on the right would post this is absolutely hilarious.
     
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    The Russian interference election fraud conspiracies? Are those the ones you’re talking about?
     
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    I'm not talking about whether people think they have more power or not. Unless you believe racism is gone, skin color does affect outcomes which means it has power. Claiming skin color has no power is the same as saying racism has been eliminated. The only time skin color has no "power" is when there is no racism.
     
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    ...nah, he is actually referring to the one with zero evidence of "stolen election" fraud. It's already been proven that Russia interfered with the 2016 election. The amount of projection here is astounding, but not surprising. Ok guys, carry on.
     
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    Racism is not a state of mind. It is institutionalized.
     
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    If black people are more likely to be shot by police for doing things that white people get a warning for, that's the power of skin color. If black people are more likely to be charged more for rent than a white person would, that's the power of skin color. If black applicants with similar qualifications are less likely to be hired than white applicants, that's the power of skin color

    So, no, it doesn't matter whether a person believes their skin color confers power or not. If black people (or Latino people or other racial minorities) face differing outcomes on average than white people, skin color has power.
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    What men and women feel in their hearts is interesting and all, but is intrinsically unknowable and not really the best measure of racism in the world. What matters is really expressed racism and how it affects outcomes. A world that truly was equal in terms of opportunity and how people are treated (not that I ever expect that to happen) is a world of no expressed racism. Maybe 50% of the population would still secretly be racist while never acting upon it--maybe 100% would. There would be no way to know and therefore it really wouldn't be relevant.

    As long as outcomes are different for different groups of people due to the lightness or darkness of their skin, skin color obviously has power.
     
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    World leaders are publicly aghast in unison that America has suddenly been shown to be pussywhipped by a Nerd Squad and allowed Big Tech to roll right over The Constitution and claim outright ownership of 330,000,000 Human Beings.
     
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    How was Washington DC? Did you get any interesting souvenirs from the capitol?
     
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    It's likely we will never live in a world where skin color doesn't matter, unfortunately.

    To me, the best antidote to irrational hatred (stemming from prejudice) is education and living around diversity. We can't force either thing on people, but we can make educational opportunity more attainable for people who currently don't have the money. Meanwhile, the amount of isolated, homogeneous communities are shrinking. More communities diversify over time. It's unlikely we'll reach a point where every city and town in America matches the national demographics, but the closer we get over time, the less "othering" will occur of racial minorities (and LGBTQ+ minorities, for that matter).

    This, IMO, is why younger generations tend to be less prone to prejudice--because each new generation has increased educational attainment and grows up in a more diverse environment (on average, not in every case) than their parents or grandparents did.
     
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    Except they're not
     
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