OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

If you die with Covid-19 you are a covid-19 death. By definition.

Not enough people die of other causes without covid-19 being a big factor to change the numbers. We know this because there have been far more excess deaths than deaths classified as covid-19.

We're missing more covid-19 deaths than we're misdiagnosing as covid-19 deaths.

 

And California is in the lower half of infection and death rates in the country.

 

That's just the last 7 days. Look at overall. You were talking about restrictions since March...

 

Well, it is where we are now.

Most people out here have lockdown fatigue. Prolonged lockdowns cause this and no one is going to listen, even with the ICUs being at 300% capacity.

In short incidences, its fine (2 weeks to flatten the curve!), but when its basically on most of the year, people will tune the rules out. Especially in California, where everyone's special.

 

Maybe not.

 

Problem is the halfway measures. If everybody else in the country would have locked down like California and Oregon we'd have been done locking down after a few months.

But historically poor leadership at the national level made that impossible.

So, here we are.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.or...-to-track-them-are-a-mess.html?outputType=amp

Oregon has almost 200,000 unused COVID vaccines. The state’s attempts to track them are a mess

 

The definition is flawed. Dying with Covid is not the same as dying from it.

 

It doesn't matter. The result is the same. Dying in a plane crash and dying from bleeding out after being cut in half by the chair next you is the same thing.

If somebody had a heart attack and died as the plane was going down they still died from a plane crash.

 

But if the pilot had a heart attack that caused a plane crash, you could argue that all the passengers died because of a heart attack.

 

Hearing more stories of Vaccine line cutters. My doctor friends were warned about it by their admins, but hearing stories and seeing people on IG who aren't in the proper groups getting vaccinated. You're also supposed to get vaccinated in the county you live in, but people are bypassing that through hookups (LA's rollout has been pretty bad versus nearby counties)

 

More people are testing positive around me, its pretty scary these days. Maintenance workers, even my coworker is in quarantine right now. Thinking of a better fan/disinfectant system to hopefully clean a room, doubt it will do good though. Been going through spray pretty quickly.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...d-mutations-could-require-vaccine-cooperation

Keeping up with Covid mutations could require vaccine cooperation

Production of new flu vaccine each year shows it should be possible to adapt to coronavirus variants if necessary

 

Scary for people that are high risk, is that you? This virus is going nowhere.

The Future of the Coronavirus? An Annoying Childhood Infection

 

Its evolved, and is hitting people differently now, at least according to my doc friends. What were once outliers are now dying.

They only see the bad cases though, so I'm not really sure how the mild cases really are.

Today, I was at work, and someone came in without a mask. He previously had COVID 19, and was like "I can't get it anymore" (false). I told him "but I can, so you stay over there".

 

No, they died of a plane crash. The plane crashing caused the deaths. Just like covid-19 caused over 99.99% of covid-19 deaths. In fact we know that covid-19 caused more than 100% of all deaths currently classified as covid-19 deaths, because of the excess deaths numbers.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/katu.c...ve-increased-shipments-of-coronavirus-vaccine

Governor Brown says Oregon will not receive increased shipments of coronavirus vaccine