What should be done with Anfernee?

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  1. Hoopguru

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    If Trent doesn't get to start while CJ's out, thats BS! The Kid has earned the right to start in front of Simons or Hood.
     
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    As far as what I think we should do with Simons, we should try to turn him and draft picks into Shake Milton. The guy plays and defends both guard positions, he can bring the ball up and set up an offense and he makes open threes. He would not only be our back up guard now but also could be in the future.

    Side note: If Philly doesn't want Ant but will take picks we can still do that and be under the luxury tax threshold.
     
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    Start Trent and Kanter.

    Simons can have backup minutes.

    If NAS gets healthy he has opportunity.

    Sign a 2 way like Adams from the playoffs.

    Possibly dump or trade Collins if it gets us a useful vet minimum or two.
     
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    Dame / Simmons
    Trent / Hood
    DDJ / Little
    Melo / RoCo
    Kanter / Giles

    Or:


    Dame / Simmons
    Trent / Hood
    DDJ / Little
    RoCo / Melo
    Kanter / Giles
     
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    If this is a question, I'll go with option B. I know you are big on Melo but I think RoCo is going to start hitting his threes, his career numbers are proof enough for me. So I'll take a 3 and D guy over an iso and very little D guy. I also realize that this is a depth chart but I still doubt that Nas gets much time. I think Hood will get most of the minutes behind both Trent and DJJ.
     
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    They should stop pretending that he's Dame and hoping he'll bail out our stagnant ass offense all the time.
     
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    Philly won't trade him for anything other than an instant upgrade.
     
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    If they trade he would be a throw in and not a main piece of the trade. This reminds me when they draft teilfer out of high school and you know that didn't pan out neither. Simons is not the player that Olshey thinks he is and probably will never be that player.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Simons might not be the player Olshey tried to pass him off as, but he's definitely not Sebastian Telfair.

    Maybe having a coach who plays Simons to his strengths would be a good start. It's similar to how PJ tried to force James Robinson to be a PG, when he clearly wasn't (not saying Simons clearly isn't a PG like Robinson wasn't, but his strengths aren't being a PG first and foremost. But having him just shoot 3's after waiting in the corner aren't taking advantage of his skillset).

    And yes I know his position was listed as a PG, but James Robinson wasn't a true PG.
     
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    You're right, Telfair was a much superior NBA player his first few seasons. We dont know if Simmons will be worthy of a roster spot as Telfair was.
     
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    He should have been, he was a lotto pick. People seem to forget that Simons wasn't a lotto pick.

    I don't know if I'd say he was "much superior", as he was given a completely different opportunity. He started 50+ games and was given consistent minutes even though he couldn't shoot to save his life.
     
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    Counterpoint: no he wasn't - he was just given free rein on a tanking team. And at least Anfernee isn't the reason we didn't draft Chris Paul.
     
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    Hollywood!!....blasts from the past award for Wednesday goes to Julius

    for fun, 2nd year stats:

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    comparisons to Telfair and Robinson aren't the type of 3rd year discussions you want for Simons
     
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    The funny part with Simons is last year to start the season he was actually pretty decent that first few weeks or so. Since then though he has fallen off a cliff. Completely useless
     
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    That's a pretty brutal indictment on Simons. He's even worse defensively.
     
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    Plenty of lotto picks are complete busts, it doesn't entitle a player to multi year roles.

    People forget Telfair played over 500 games and started in Boston and Minnesota. Simons hasn't shown he has that potential.

    I'm not arguing Telfair was a good solution to anything... but as bad as Telfair was he was clearly superior to Simons.

    Can Simons change that? Sure, but he needs to improve or Telfair will go down as the superior player.
     
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    Telfair, for all his faults, was still a true point guard.

    Simons doesn't resemble anything even remotely similar to a point guard.
     
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    I tried to go look up Qyntel Woods stats at poitn guard but 82games didn't have that year.
     
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    Telfair had at least one legitimate NBA skill--he was an extremely skilled passer. He wasn't an efficient scorer, he wasn't much of a rebounder and he couldn't play defense--but all those things are true of Simons, too, and he doesn't have even the one standout skill. That's why I don't expect Simons to stick in the NBA. Even if you aren't a good overall player, if you have one signature skill to hang your hat on, that you can do at an NBA level, you can have a minor career in the league. But without that, you'd better be a good player all-around.
     
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    The thing is, that I would then take Maxey or Seth too. What I'm getting at is they have a gluttony of guards that can bring the ball up and would be an upgrade for us at backup PG. Of course I think they see Maxey as having a higher upside than Shake and Seth being more important to their current success. They also have another guard in Thybulle that I think they value a lot and Ferguson and Danny Green have to get minutes at the wing spots, not to mention Isiah Joe who is getting minutes. So I don't think they need any immediate upgrades. I really think they would take draft picks that they could package with a player in the future for an upgrade at that time.
     

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