OT Goodbye to a Bad Nightmare

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  1. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    How can you say it was spot on?
     
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    What an outdated view of Christianity. It's not Saint Matthew and Sermon on the Mount. To people like this, Christian means hate gays, outlaw abortion, and worship Trump. That's why people like her think they are being persecuted by an executive order banning discrimination.

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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Those beliefs are not sanctioned by my church, the church of three of our Presidents.
     
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    Agree. And I am not saying those are the views of Christians generally. But they are views I have frequently encountered.
     
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    I am all for freedom of religion. Its great for people to have spirituality in their lives. I believe in many of the principles of Christianity. Generosity, courage, love, etc. But, when it is used as a pulpit to spread hate and division, it goes against its very values.

    My mother is Christian and goes to Church every Sunday. She is appalled at how it has been abused by so many and used to establish Trump as a false idol. She doesn't hate or judge people because of their sexuality. She loves them the same because that is what her religion and her heart tells her. She doesn't necessarily agree with abortion, but she doesn't judge others who have them. She is understanding and open minded.

    That is what true Christianity as it is written is supposed to be about. Not the mockery it has been made to be. With televangelists using it to preach politics, he hawing about Biden, refusing to accept he was elected and spreading divisiveness among congregants. Or leading a prayer session to exerorcise the will of Democrats as if it is they are Satan's spawn. Like Trumps undoing is some work of the Devil himself. It passes me off. It saddens me to see.

    I am not Christian really. I dont go to Church every Sunday. I actually grew up learning about both Judaism and Christianity. My mother was adopted by a Jewish family and raised as such. She converted to Christianity later on, but we always celebrated both Jewish and Christian holidays.

    I have learned a lot from both religions and am glad for it. I think there is good in all religion. It pisses me off to see religion used for ill gain or to divide.
     
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    I'm surprised at just how many reputations are still afraid of Trump and his base. He still has so many followers.
     
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    The Republicans could end or greatly diminish Trump's hold on the party by unanimously coming out against him. But, they would have to possibly sacrifice their re-election. They aren't willing to sacrifice themselves for the good of their party.
     
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    Kissing some ass so he can get reelected. I can see him down there bowing to Trump and swearing allegiance. Probably kissing the Donald's ring.
     
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    Or, perhaps other intimate parts yet to be revealed to news sources;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Wait, this should be a caption contest. In fact, a political caption contest would draw many fans.
    That would be jolly~ good. :craphead:
     
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    , Once again, American Society reclassifies branding into a World religion and these feeble minds associate it with Trump. Trump never subscribed to any God.
    > Therefore, they can commit into the next step. They can also say they could shoot somebody and nothing could be done, as per ~Donald Trump. What scares me, is that troubled people can be an arms' length away from you and me. That possible future event, could occur.
     
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    I hope he remains popular among the Republican party, or at least hugely popular for the 40% or so of Republicans that made up his cult. This is the kind of headache Mitch McConnell and the rest of the party establishment didn't want--a deeply divisive figure that holds claim on the hearts of a big chunk of their voter base. If his people look to him for judgment, it makes it harder for the Republican party to corral them as voters if Trump objects to things they do or opposes Republican politicians who didn't sufficiently "respect" him.
     
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    The only downside is more Trump loyalists will get elected. The ones who are not loyal to him will be replaced in the coming elections. Then we will have a republican party in office completely loyal to Trump. His hold over the party needs to end not gain strength.
     
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    But, it will be a smaller party. Trumpists who win the primary may not win the general, in more moderate districts. And that would be a good thing.

    If the traditional GOP is the elephant, the Trumpist party is the rabid squirrel.

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    The public is about to see the impeachment trial case in full view...no executive privilege...multiple civil law suits pending...banks closing lines of credit...yeah...I think McCarthy knows he's been caught contradicting himself and propping up a crazy QAnon woman.....he's probably asking Trump to do a deal with the Republicans and step aside quietly. McCarthy is getting the full wrath of the opposition for his flip flopping..without executive privilege Trump is going to really regret making enemies in powerful places. Disgraced even from social media and business leaders.
     
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    More Trump loyalists will get elected--in some places, places where Republicans were going to win anyway. As barfo says, though, if the direction of the party is towards Trump, it'll weaken the party, make it smaller. And Trump's loyalist voters (as opposed to voters who voted for Trump because party over everything) aren't a majority of the party, so I doubt Trump will dominate the Republican party. More likely is a pretty divisive civil war within the party., which also isn't good for them.

    An often-overlooked aspect of the Tea Party "success" was that it may have done more damage than benefit to the Republican party. That year was always likely to be a big year for Republicans, a midterm with a Democratic President and a backdrop of the extremely controversial "Obamacare" proceedings. The Tea Party didn't generate that success--but what it did was create a bar for Republicans that they be extreme and populist, which led to some truly awful candidates. Democrats retained control of the Senate in 2010 and 2012 in no small part because of candidates like Todd Akin ("legitimate rape rarely leads to pregnancy"), Richard Mourdock ("pregnancy from rape is a gift from God"), Christine O'Donnell ("I am not a witch"), Sharron Angle ("Sharia law has taken over in Michigan") and others who rose with Tea Party support gave Democrats wins in races that they weren't favored in against "generic Republicans." It also cost the Republican party winnable House contests in 2012, 2014 and 2016, plus it created a caucus that drove John Boehner and Paul Ryan to drink as Speakers of the House trying to drive Republican priority bills. Both found their own Republican majorities unmanageable.

    Nowadays, "Tea Party" is not a favorable term among Republicans. When was the last time Marco Rubio identified himself as part of the Tea Party, even though that's how he won his Senate seat back in 2010? I see Trumpism going the same way--it got associated with large or surprising victory, it resonated with a large group of extremist Republicans and took over the party...but made the party unmanageable and likely already has and will continue to exact a price in lost elections. That's what happens when you try to benefit from an extremist movement: you ride the tiger until the tiger eats you.
     
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