I haven't looked at available free agent dollars to see who will be spenders yet, so haven't a guess on who would make more. Generically looking at their numbers, one would say Collins. But position scarcity/intriguing upside, can see it being Trent. I'm all for moving CJ in the right deal, but almost feel capitilizing on Trent's value before we overpay/pay what he is worth is the better move, ultimately.
depends? I mean, generically it should be CJ if only because his 30M salary offers a lot more opportunity for bringing back player(s). It also offers the option of cap-relief if Trent was a first round pick in his 3rd year, with this and another season left on his rookie deal, he'd have really good value as a centerpiece in a bigger trade. Some teams would probably give up a pretty high pick for him too. But with his impending free agency this summer, I'd think that knocks some of his value away
Agree with what Wiz said. I think the value depends on the teams targeted, and if it needs a 3rd team to make the most sense. I don't think as a whole the same teams would be interested in both, where you could easily say, for example, Milwaukee would pay X for CJ, Y for Trent, one of them is more. I think it's more, Milwaukee would have more interest in CJ, a team like Memphis, Atlanta, N.O., etc. would maybe have more interest in Trent.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-nys-radar-ahead-of-2021-deadline?share=other Knicks interested in CJ?
If CJ is traded it will not be before the trade deadline. The options are too limited. How we look in the postseason will be a huge factor in determining if either is traded or just one.
I would be happy. CJ too ball dominant and plays no defense. Trent Jr age 21 Sniper who doesn't dominate ball and plays defense. CJ also in 1.5 years is free agent that can get Max deal which Portland could not afford because of Dame max. Give me Randle for CJ. I doubt it will happen but damn it be amazing . Either way!! DO You NOT SEE That TRENT JR is much more compatible with DAME? Trent can be our Klay Thompson doesn’t dominate ball plays D sniper
well, this will get Blazerkor revved up Kincks would have to pay a lot more than Randle. As in Quickley + Burks or Bullock and a first.
We do not NEED Trent to score like CJ. We need trent to score 20-22 pts be a sniper and Play defense. Dame usage rate Increased by 5% without CJ and so did his scoring and assists. Dame is our playmaker and scorer, Trent can be Our Klay. We saw enough that CJ and Dame don’t work together at highest level. Trent Jr is a no brainer next to Dame
Insane. Trent Jr needs to be cornerstone next to Dame for next 5 years. Trent next to Dame is magical fit. Trading and not resigning Trent Jr will be one of biggest mistake in franchise history.
So who is out Durant and Draymond in that scenario? Even if you look at the years before KD, Klay and Steph were successful because they had a PF who could handle the ball. It was never just the backcourt that made it work.
Yeah, I like it that the Knicks are interested but I think Olshey thinks the way you do and I just don't think that is realistic given how well Randle has been playing. I honestly think that a three team deal that sends Nurk and Randle to the Wolves, KAT and Rivers to us and CJ to the Knicks makes a ton of sense for all parties. Minny upgrades their front court having two quality starters in the post instead of just one and I think they win more games immediately, they do have to try and extend both guys in the off season but if they couldn't they could make more trades next season. I think if CJ is the guy the Knicks want then this a great deal for them. We get an actual all star to pair with Dame who is a big time scorer and who is actually an upgrade on D from what we've been getting from Kanter. We also get a guy in Rivers that can run an offense at the point and defend both guard positions off of the bench. Rivers is a better fit for us than any of the guys you mentioned and maybe you're right and the Knicks value CJ like you do and they give us the Mavs first rounder in the deal too.
Randle has another year on his contract. It's not an option or anything. It is only partially guaranteed according to spotrac, so in theory the Knicks could cut him and save like 16M without getting anything in return but I think 20M is a pretty good deal for the guy, considering what he's done so far this season. https://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_york_knicks/ https://www.spotrac.com/nba/new-york-knicks/cap/2021/
I would go for that. I honestly as crazy as it sounds because he doesn't have near the upside of Knox, would rather have Rivers because we need a vet that can run an offense at the point and play solid D on any guard but Knox is definitely the higher value. If you're interested in cap space you could even go with Randle and the Mavs pick, which doesn't really help us win this season but could be packaged with another player for an upgrade on draft night. That's all if you are thinking like me and want to do this deal before the trade deadline.
collins reportedly turned down $90 mil contract, he wants max i dont know if hell get max, but hell get more than trent jr fore sure, much more i would say
Why Quickley is the main cog for me: The sample size of Randle’s play - is it sustainable without Thibs? Up until now, he’s looked like a Harrison Barnes clone his entire career. Thibs is THE reason for his breakout. Quickley or bust in any CJ deal.
